Wednesday, February 3, 2016

Mr. Landscapesandcycles, Jim Steele weights in (#9 ...)

Every time I think I'm done with this, there's another surprise waiting.  This morning I woke to this comment from my old pal Jim, who's claim to legitimacy comes from his years as San Francisco State University, Sierra Nevada Field Campus nature trail guide, caretaker/director, and bird watcher Jim Steele, before he became spokesman for climate science denial industry.
My experience has been that poptech is far more honest than citizenchallegne/meisler . Meisler is just experiencing the time honored truth, What goes around comes around!

Jim has made quite the reputation himself.  He demands we debate climate science but then runs from anyone willing to debate him on the nonsense he's spewing out.  Then back within the confines of his protective echo-chamber, boy can he blast me.  It's no wonder he feels such a kinship with Poptech.  I don't have any more time for him today - but his comment has inspired me to share a couple lists of detailed reviews and the itemizing of his many lies and theatrical manipulations:
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Monday, January 12, 2015
INDEX - Jim Steele's climate science horror collection, Landscapesandcycles, 2014

This blog has been a personal learning process and I'll admit some posts are duds, others aren't all they should be, but then, a few hit the nail.  

Since the past decade has taught me that climate science denialism is an insuperable ideological point of faith with many - I've switched my focus to the few who want to study the tactics and dynamics that climate science denialist types employ in order to misrepresent and distort the science.  These tactics are dedicated to confusing and misleading people.  

Thereby turning what should have been a sober learning process into a contorted dishonest political farce.  A farce forced on us by special-interests employing disingenuous jokers such as the "Lord" Monckton or this current rising star Mr. Jim Steele.  

Steele's message: 
A)  Local landscapes are drivers of global climate change. 
B)  Internal cycles are more powerful drivers than the atmosphere that envelopes our planet

The way I see his tactics:
    Obsessive focus on flaws in extremely challenging wildlife population studies.
    Misrepresent the scope of those flaws and the learning process. 

As an excuse to:
     Ignore the physics of atmospheric greenhouse gases.
     Ignore the fact that industrialized society has increased our planet's atmosphere's insulation medium (GHGs) by 30%.
     Ignore the fact that our climate system is a global heat and moisture distribution engine.
     Ignore the overwhelming observational evidence of continued global warming.

Employing:
    Political theater to dismiss well established science.
    Slander to disparage dedicated professional scientists.
    The magician's tactic of distraction and rhetorical sleight of hand.
    The Serengeti Strategy which is explained here and here.

(updated 3/7/16 - to reflect a recent dialogue with Jim Steele and to repeat my acceptance of Jim's repetitive insistence that there must be debate, but that he keeps hiding from.)
I have invited Mr. Steele's comments and assured him I'll post what he offers, but he does his best to ignore me and has offered nothing. Except occasionally complaining about me at other venues and having me banned from commenting on his YouTube Climate Science Horror series.  

For a detailed look at how I've arrived at and support my conclusions here's the index for my 2014 articles specifically focused on understanding Mr. Steele's "Landscapes and Cycles" game.  Stay tuned, given continued health, there will be more.

INDEX FOR 2014 BLOG POSTS: 
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Wednesday, March 19, 2014
Fabricating Climate Doom: looking at Jim Steele’s deception
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Friday, March 21, 2014
Of Recursive Fury, SkepticForum.com and science denialist's strategy of harassment
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Friday, March 28, 2014
JUST THE SCIENCE of Fabricating Climate Doom: Parmesan's Butterfly Effect
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Sunday, March 30, 2014
Fabricating Climate Doom - Steele's Extreme Weather Extinctions Enron Style - examined
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Friday, April 25, 2014
Jim Steele Exploiting Human Misery and Distorting Science
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Wednesday, May 7, 2014
Years of Living Dangerously the creepy side of the internet debate
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Sunday, May 11, 2014
Anthony Watts' Dog Whistle, re Sea Level Rise
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Friday, May 16, 2014
Jim Steele this is 2014 !
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Sunday, October 19, 2014
Catmando Does Jim Steele

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And then came Mr. Steele's YouTube Climate Science Horror series presented to the politically motivated most unskeptical life members of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers who hired a speaker to feed them what they wanted to hear.

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Tuesday, November 4, 2014 (Video 1a)
#A Jim Steele's IEEE Presentation: Climate and Drought: Landscape Changes vs CO2, examined
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Wednesday, November 5, 2014 (Video 1b)
#B Jim Steele's IEEE Presentation: Climate and Drought: Landscape Changes vs CO2, examined
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Monday, November 17, 2014
Considering the demarcation between valid science and pseudo-science
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Friday, November 28, 2014 (Video 2)
Droughts and Heatwaves: Ocean Oscillations vs CO2 by Jim Steele - examined
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Monday, December 1, 2014
Jim Steele, why you "cleansing" YouTube comments? W.U.W.T.?
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A look at Mr. Steele's fraudulent Yosemite Nat'l Park temperature graph, the one he uses to claim California hasn't experience any warming these past decades.

Tuesday, December 2, 2014
Steele's Yosemite Nat'l Park mystery temp graph? W.U.W.T.?
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Wednesday, December 3, 2014 (Video 3)
Recovering Whales, Ocean Acidification the Jim Steele Horror Story - reviewed
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Wednesday, December 10, 2014 (Video 3a)
Steele's Ocean Acidification Horror Story, a closer look.
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Saturday, December 13, 2014
What's it mean to be an honest skeptic?
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Monday, December 15, 2014
A blast from the past May 16, 2014 Steele's Arctic Ice Horror story
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Monday, December 22, 2014
Mr. Steele, time for a reality check.
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Sunday, December 28, 2014 (Video 4a)
Steele's penguin "climate horror story" YouTube series, Video 4a
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Sunday, December 28, 2014 Video 4a)
Appendix Steele's penguin "climate horror story" YouTube series, Video 4a
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This is a copy of an email sent to Mr. Steele asking for the source of one of his claims.

Friday, January 9, 2015
Steele's climate horror story, drowning chicks. Who says?

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Tuesday, May 5, 2015
INDEX-The Great landscapesandcycle's Climate Science Debate


On January 27, 2015 Jim Steele creator of the Landscapesandcycles blog, which advocates for the bizarre notion that landscapes and natural cycles are more important than our planet's atmosphere in regulating conditions on Earth, was interviewed by Sterling Bennett of the Heartland Institute.  The interview was a case study in the manipulation of information with intent to mislead.

To me his sneaky tactical misrepresentations and outlandish claims are unconscionable in this day and age, given not only our scientific knowledge, but down to Earth observations of the past century.

That is why I've gone through the trouble of transcribing and highlighting his many deceptions.

While Mr. Steele trumpets the need to debate the science underpinning our understanding of global warming he has hidden from the challenging questions I raise in my "virtual" debate.  Apparently his style of debate only happens within the security of the Republican/libertarian echo-chamber of like minded unidirectional skeptics and political allies, where his misrepresentation are accepted as reassuring gospel and healthy self-skepticism is nonexistent.  

I want to make clear that I stand by my offer:
... Mr. Steele, let's have our Great Global Warming Science Debate.  I will accept these responses from your Heartland Institute podcast as your opening round.  I'll offer my rebuttals, evidence and questions.  I agree to post your (or your champion's) thoughtful responses unaltered in a stand alone post. 

Interestingly the Heartland podcast doesn't offer a time signature as the interview unfolds, so I can't give specific starting points to the various sections of this debate.  Suffice it to say that I have included the entire interview and each installment begins where the previous one ends.  With the exception of #2, which is Mr. Steele's closing statement where he demands a public debate on the science and which I use to justify challenging him with this virtual debate.

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Sunday, April 5, 2015
Is misinformation about climate science criminally negligent? 
by Lawrence Torcello
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Thursday, April 2, 2015
#1 Mtn warming? - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Thursday, April 2, 2015
#2 Fear of Debate - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Thursday, April 2, 2015
#3 global temperature fallacy - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Saturday, April 4, 2015
#4 Temperature Homogenization - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Sunday, April 5, 2015
#5 Prof Trenberth stifling "sceptics" - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Sunday, April 5, 2015
#6 Moose and the NWF - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Tuesday, April 7, 2015
#7 Penguins, butterflies and consensus - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Sunday, April 12, 2015
#8 Mangroves, Dr. Cavanaugh, NPR's Joyce - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles debate
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Thursday, April 16, 2015
#9 Steele's heat waves and the AGW fallacy - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Saturday, April 25, 2015
#10 Heartland in their own words - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Sunday, April 26, 2015
#11 Questions for Heartland's Burnett, re Dr. Mann and more - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Wednesday, April 29, 2015
#12 "Pushing this global climate alarmism" - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Wednesday, April 29, 2015
#13 Critical Thinking and "keep the debate alive" - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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Thursday, April 30, 2015
#14 Considering Malicious Falsehoods vs Right to Learn - CC/Steele Landscapesandcycles Debate
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INDEX of previous investigations into Jim Steele's various Landscapesandcycles' science horror shows
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5 comments:

Catmando said...

Jim Steele is a world expert on dishonesty, having lengthy experience of being dishonest himself, but strangely he chose wrongly. I remember when Steele was baked by Sou and commenters, with added Parmesan grated on top. If he told me grass was green, I'd go and check.

Jim Steele said...

I came here once and demonstrated your lies. YOu deleted my posts and continued to lie. I told then, as I remind you now. I will not ever come here to engage in a sincere debate because Peter Meisler is not to be trusted. Set up a debate in a neutral place that can be videoed and where Peter Meisler can not manipulate the facts, then I will gladly debate you and put your dishonest claims to rest. Your obsessive dishonesty has been noted many times http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/07/peter-miesler-helps-expose-ushcn-homogenization-insanity-and-antarctic-illusions/

citizenschallenge said...

Jim, please point out what I have wrong in my summation of your "contribution" to the "debate" -

His message:
'Think locally, ignore the global.'

His tactics:
Obsessive focus on flaws in extremely challenging wildlife population studies.
Misrepresent the scope of those flaws and the learning process.

As an excuse to:
Ignore the physics of atmospheric greenhouse gases.
Ignore the fact that industrialized society has increased our planet's atmosphere's insulation medium (GHGs) by nearly 40%.
Ignore the fact that our climate system is a global heat distribution engine.
Ignore the overwhelming observational evidence of continued global warming.

Employing:
Political theater to dismiss well established science.
Political theater to disparage dedicated professional scientists.
The magician's tactic of distraction and sleight of hand.
The Serengeti Strategy which is explained here and here.

citizenschallenge said...

I have never deleted your post. No need to. I welcome your comments, since your comments always provide an excellent platform for me to explain myself and expose your deception.

It's you who must run back to your club house to do your trashing of me.

As I have told you before, and I'll do again: I offer you a guest post here you can clearly delineate how you feel I've misrepresented you. You know I have put my complaint in writing for all to see and work with.
Come on big guy.
but, me thinks you're too fearful to accept, since all you're running on is vapors.
Substantive constructive debate rather than a political kangaroo debate - how about it?

Landscapes and cycles more important that the atmospheric insulation (that regulates how much heat our global heat and moisture distribution engine holds in) indeed. Defending that one with serious science would be quite the challenge, wouldn't it big guy. I can understand why you wouldn't want to attempt to seriously defend that childish notion.

You're daft, and your like the kid who throws rocks at people from the protection of his fenced yard.
But, you got a boy, he's going to be able to witness first hand what your malicious nonsensical slander has helped bring about. What he winds up thinking of his pops in the end, will matter more than my contempt for your base dishonesty.

citizenschallenge said...

Once more, for the record.
You try to stupify your gullible and intellectually lazy audience with your nonsensical "landscapes'n cycles" garbage.
Worse you do your science by slander and omission.
And that is what I've taken umbrage at.
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Here's what I'm arguing for - a bit of honest understanding and appreciation for this planet we depend on.

Tell me big guy, where's the scientific distortion in the following?
Bet you can't find any. : )

PS. Who says understanding Earth’s Evolution is irrelevant?

January 6, 2016
{1} Our Global Heat and Moisture Distribution Engine
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/earths-heat-moisture-engine.html

January 9, 2016
{2} Co-evolution of Minerals and Life | Dr Robert Hazen
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/2-coevolution-of-minerals-and-life.html

January 14, 2016
{3} Evolution of Carbon and our biosphere - Professor Hazen focuses on the element Carbon
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/3-evolution-carbon-biosphere-hazen.html
January 23, 2016
{4} Evolution-Considering Deep Time and a Couple Big Breaks
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/4-evolution-deeptime-moon-geomagnetic.html

February 6, 2016
{5a} The Most Beautiful Graph on Earth - A. Hessler
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/most-beautiful-graph-on-earth.html

February 7, 2016
{5b} Earth's Earliest Climate - By Angela Hessler
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/earths-earliest-climate-by-hessler.html

February 14, 2016
{6} Evolution of Earth's Atmosphere - easy version
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/6-evolution-earths-atmosphere-easy.html

February 18, 2016
{7} Our Global Heat and Moisture Distribution Engine, visualized
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/7-global-heat-moisture-distribution.html

February 19, 2016
{8} Atmospheric Insulation Explained - appreciating our climate engine
livepage.apple.com http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/8-atmospheric-insulation-explained.html