tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post1083379919278239855..comments2024-03-01T18:58:48.605-08:00Comments on What'sUpWithThatWatts, et al.: Dear ScottishSceptic, why do you keep threatening me? citizenschallengehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-19255103291512120472018-11-21T06:37:33.229-08:002018-11-21T06:37:33.229-08:00I took a look, conspiracy ideation and slander is ...I took a look, conspiracy ideation and slander is all the man has on his side.<br /><br />Guess its true that contrarian blogs are dying out, but its seems the science based serious climate science blogs aren't doing that much better. No one wants to discuss it or think about it.<br /><br />Thanks for dropping in, I'd like to ramble on some more, but gotta get going lots to do today.<br /><br />I did drop by and left a comment at his rant against academia, but imagine it won't get through his moderation, though it was polite.Peter Mieslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17402362928953253739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-9576754978434081272018-11-21T04:59:04.783-08:002018-11-21T04:59:04.783-08:00I read your article with interest.
I have engaged...I read your article with interest.<br /><br />I have engaged with scottishsceptic on several occasions and decided to google other responses to him. Thusly, I found your blog.<br /><br />This is purely anecdotal but it seems to me that traffic in climate denier blogs has gone down and that several of them have shut down completely without a new generation of bloggers taking their place.<br />Have you noticed the same or is it only me?<br /><br />BishopsHill is defunct.<br />Climate Skeptic is defunct.<br />The Inconvenient Skeptic is defunct.<br /><br />Scottish Skeptic is branching out into other stuff. (never a good sign).<br /><br />I have never found it useful to tackle science denier talking points head on.<br />It's seems to only entrench their beliefs and ramp up the "sheer bloody mindedness" factor.<br />However, I have found that examining the conspiracy angle can shake things up a bit.<br />A scientific consensus is impossible to fake.<br />All science deniers of whatever topic implicitly rely on a global scientific conspiracy theory....which just doesn't work due to simple logistics.<br />So, just recently, I showed up at Scottishsceptics blog and (very politely) got him to ever-so-gingerly engage in nuts and bolts of the conspiracy.<br /><br />I like to imagine that it got him out of his comfort zone for a little, tiny bit while he had to do some original thinking for a change.<br />Enjoy.<br /><br />http://scottishsceptic.co.uk/2018/10/26/time-to-reform-academia/ <br /><br />http://scottishsceptic.co.uk/2018/08/30/winning/<br /><br /><br /><br />Cedric Katesbyhttp://www.randi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-65319213688513620412014-02-08T00:09:32.069-08:002014-02-08T00:09:32.069-08:00Haseler has problems.
He writes things like<
...Haseler has problems.<br /><br />He writes things like<<br /><br />“As chairman of the Scottish Climate & Energy Forum I know what sceptics think because I ran a consultation with sceptics. As a result I know Sir Mark Walport is just spreading unfounded lies. His only excuse is his total ignorance and lack of interest for the truth based on the evidence of what we sceptics actually say about climate."<br /><br />in response to this:<br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/top-scientist-sir-mark-walport-urges-climate-change-deniers-to-give-in-8854368.html#comment-1069362541<br /><br />(The comments have long disappeared as the Independent switched commenting platform.)<br /><br />What do you call a Sceptic Consenus? A Septic Tank?jsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13556228334456696345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-39281451572315071842014-02-07T16:14:11.984-08:002014-02-07T16:14:11.984-08:00That was an interesting read, must admit I agree w...That was an interesting read, must admit I agree with Mr. Connelley. I left the following comment at http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2014/02/07/bloggers-behaving-badly/<br />~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <br /><br />It's always interesting seeing how the bullies react when they get a taste of their own medicine. {Let that be a lesson to you timid lurkers out there, stand up to them, call them out for what they are.}<br /><br />Mr. Connolley, <br />thank you for giving me a heads up on this post and for taking the time to look into this. I appreciate your assessment of this situation. May I have permission to repost this over at WhatsUpWithThatWatts?<br />~ ~ ~ <br /><br />Mr. Haseler, <br />Now can be get down to discussing the actual merits of that list of "Skeptical" beliefs. Like I've said before, we don't have to like each other, we just need to be civil and rational. Let's work at having a constructive learning dialogue. Have a good day sir.<br />citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-11229045765774847412014-02-07T15:41:23.571-08:002014-02-07T15:41:23.571-08:00sorry about the types, the hurrieder I get the wor...sorry about the types, the hurrieder I get the worse it gets.citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-40660225953584326142014-02-07T14:22:28.516-08:002014-02-07T14:22:28.516-08:00I see I've been invoked. I ended up writing a ...I see I've been invoked. I ended up writing a post about it: http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2014/02/07/bloggers-behaving-badly/William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-2340275121194166542014-02-07T06:25:03.149-08:002014-02-07T06:25:03.149-08:00Science by threat of law suit.
How that for a deb...Science by threat of law suit.<br /><br />How that for a debate style ?citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-19936350077411009412014-02-06T11:15:22.958-08:002014-02-06T11:15:22.958-08:00SS tries to appear well-mannered and reasonable wh...SS tries to appear well-mannered and reasonable when he posts on sites like ATTP and SHW. This shows he isn't reasonable, and exposes a general characteristic of the pseudoskeptic approach. I've had exactly the same threatened legal action from local pseudos based on letters to the editor in my local paper.<br /><br />So, I agree with Victor that SS isn't worth the publicity, but the technique is worth exposing.PLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-30415907889806640122014-02-06T10:44:10.227-08:002014-02-06T10:44:10.227-08:00Good point.
But, then you are a real scientist a...Good point. <br />But, then you are a real scientist and are probable engaged in many far more valuable activities.<br /><br />Me, I'm a guy on the street, a spectator so to speak, I have more familiarity with the thugs that populate the streets than you would. Thus I'm doing the best I can, where I can, with what I have . . . at least until it all gets too demoralizing and I finally drop out.<br /><br />Cheers and thanks for sharing your thoughts.citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-66384647721589683752014-02-06T10:31:00.176-08:002014-02-06T10:31:00.176-08:00Let's say it this way, I do not waste my preci...Let's say it this way, I do not waste my precious life time discussing with any fool on a soap box.<br /><br />I acknowledge that there is a moment when someone is sufficiently influential that it becomes necessary to expose the flaws. <br /><br />On the other hand there is also a level below which you only help getting a fool a bigger audience.<br /><br />It will be hard to determine where these levels lie and I did not want to attack you for engaging. The ensemble average over all fans of science, may well be a good estimate of these subjective levels.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-57756097101059313982014-02-06T06:14:15.689-08:002014-02-06T06:14:15.689-08:00Thanks for sharing.
I do disagree on one point, S...Thanks for sharing.<br /><br />I do disagree on one point, ScottishSceptic should be exposed, not ignored.<br /><br />These frauds have been getting a free ride for too long already.citizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3692282252844489453.post-11369226396641499992014-02-06T05:33:12.452-08:002014-02-06T05:33:12.452-08:00http://variable-variability.blogspot.com/2014/02/w...http://variable-variability.blogspot.com/2014/02/wuwt-and-co-not-interested-in-my.html?showComment=1391559825107#c213195117596267907<br /><br />Do not worry about a libel case. "Scottisch" "Sceptic" just wrote a comment at Variable Variability: <i>"some are lucky that I don't have the money to take them to court."</i><br /><br />This paragraph describes what he thinks of the scientific process: <i>"Perhaps the best way to put it is this. If you are an academic you are almost certainly being paid through taxes paid by most sceptics. As such you have a duty to do a good job and not to attack your paymaster. So when we find scientists attacking those who fund them, then sceptics rightly feel their money is not being well spent."</i><br /><br />The scientific process should to lead to an answer he likes. <br /><br />Given that he lives in Monckton-Land, I guess he had learned that threatening with libel is a great way to get attention. Best ignore such people.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.com