Showing posts with label malicious ignorance. Show all posts
Showing posts with label malicious ignorance. Show all posts

Monday, January 25, 2016

Debating Malicious Ignorance - Poptech, a few questions please.


This evening I noticed there are two other long winded Andrew Poptech comments in moderator limbo at Confronting Malicious Ignorance (1/2) - a look at Poptech's game   Apparently he sent them while I was busy responding to his first comment (here and here).

This morning after I posted my response, I had to shut her down and rush off to get caught up on my day to day real-world chores.  I'm back and noticed his comment after reading them I decided to sit on his #2 and #3 a little.  

For one, since his favorite tactic is to overwhelm with his self-certain rhetoric and his self-selected lists upon lists, that add up to what, we don't know.  Nah.  I'm a kid from the streets.  I'm not going play that game with him.  Here at WUWTW we're going to take this a bit slower.  

I'll try to get Andrew to understand that I'm all about trying to understand.  That requires digesting information and thoughts, it's not about who can toss out the most soundbites and heap up the biggest lists one can make up.

Secondly, I thought I'd use them as bargaining chips.
You see, I have some questions that I'm hoping Andrew will answer.
If he doesn't, ..., well that would speak volumes.

Now, lets see if Poptech is capable of explaining anything fundamental.
 A few questions for Poptech: 

Yo, Poptech, Here's A List For You

Since Andrew Poptech is enamored with long lists I though it only appropriate to share this list, and this one comes with a coherent explanatory story.  You could learn a few things from it.  Here's the list of referenced papers attached to the IPCC section that deals with our planet's paleoclimate history.  




Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis - Key Findings

IPCC's Chapter 5 - Information from Paleoclimate Archives

IPCC Information from Paleoclimate Archives
Chapter 5

References (pages 436-455)

Confronting Malicious Ignorance - Poptech, what about this list?


Andrew Poptech himself responded to my recent blog post - of course, he dismisses every critique leveled against him, acknowledging nothing, learning nothing.  You have a choice: believe him, believe others, or take the time to read up and learn about it yourself, then make up your own mind.

Andrew Poptech is an example of someone who has convinced himself that so long as he can put together endless lists and classify them according to his own personal desires that it's the truth and nothing but the "truth" - and the Republican/libertarian PR machine agrees, so they put plenty of wind under the man's wings.  

But, in the end of the day Andrew Poptech's lists are a dilettante's game that don't inform anyone about anything - it's great for wagging doubt in front of the uninformed, disinterested, who are more worried about getting through the day than understanding what's happening to our physical planet.  But that is all it's good for.  Has nothing to do with learning.

Think about Poptech's game.  He believes he can dismiss the entire community of scientists who have been focused on learning how our climate system operates.  Genuine trained experts (well over a centuries worth and from around the globe!) who are striving to understand the details of this global warming we are experiencing.  People who have done an excellent job of learning about it and sharing their information with those willing to listen.  

All of that, Andrew Poptech and pals dismiss with a self-certain wave and a stack of papers classified according to his druthers, it's nothing but vacuous doubt mongering.

Serious science is done in the full light of day and is exposed to the examination of thousands of skeptical informed professionals.  Foremost it is about learning and clarifying.  

Since Andrew Poptech is enamored with long lists I though it only appropriate to post the list of references attached to the IPCC section that deals with understanding our planet's paleoclimate history.  Poptech what about this list?

Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis - Key Findings

IPCC's Chapter 5 - Information from Paleoclimate Archives
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