Monday, December 15, 2014

A blast from the past May 16, 2014 Steele's Arctic Ice Horror story

I though I'd have the time to finish with Jim Steele's video #4 of his Horror Stories YouTube series.  Didn't happen, though I did manage to do most my homework, still it may be a while before I can get it posted.  Getting it together in a presentable post is a very time consuming process.  

But, since we are about to discuss 
(that would be my virtual dialogue with Jim Steele) his claim that there's been no warming in Arctic regions.  I thought this blast from the past might make a decent filler, since it includes about the best one minute long proof of the dramatic warming our planetary climate system has gone through these past few decades.  

Not all the belly-aching in the world about slightly flawed wildlife studies changes one iota of that geophysical fact!  Take a satellite view of the "Amount of old ice in Arctic, 1987-2013"


Here's a reprint of a note/post from May 16, 2014, back in the early days of our acquaintance.  And let's be clear it's his writings and claims I'm having my feud with, the man is incidental, in that he's just the lasted incarnation of a proud assortment of political entertainer ready to work for the Republican/Libertarian 'BS The Public Circuit,' rather than serious educators.  


And yes, that is exactly what the public global warming dialogue needed.  We sure didn't need these
 past two, three decades worth of intellectual travesty.


Saturday, December 13, 2014

What's it mean to be an honest skeptic?

I had cause to reread a fun movie review I'd written last month.  Reading it again I was thinking I should be posting part of it over here.  Because... you know... all this Steele stuff (dealing with vid#4 now, yuck) and him giving all that lip service to rational and complete science, but then going off into totalitarian deep right fields, where his only defense is to reject the science outright, to conjure ridiculous conspiracy notions.  

Scientists have it hard enough focusing on getting everything to work right, they don't have time for games that would be obvious to any trained, educated observer.  

There's the rub, notice how all these people, such as my pal Jim, don't understand the actual science fields they are attacking.  Like little kids with noses pressed against the window watching the train set run, without the first clue of what it takes to make that seeming magic happen. (guess i'm dating myself)  

They talk the Talk, but don't walk the Walk. 
So I ask: What's it mean to be an honest skeptic?

Here are my thoughts from the closing paragraphs of

Taking questions, James Randi responded to one with something I'd already jotted down in my notes as the single best line in the documentary, "People need to believe.” Later, I had a chance to shake his hand and speak with him. I asked: “OK, people need to believe – what can we do with that? Where do we go from there?" 

Thursday, December 11, 2014

Happy Anniversary RealClimate.org - Ten Years of sharing real science

H/T to Sou at Hotwhopper

I'm surprised to find it's already been a decade since RealClimate.org began. It's sad reflecting on the malicious dirty tricks and lies they've been subjected to, though it's reassuring to know they have survived and continue to offer the highest quality climate science information to those who are interested in learning.

To celebrate I'm going to share some of their anniversary write up and also their original introductory post since it's a nice encapsulation of the sad state of affairs, tragically as true today as a decade ago, and their commitment to help rational folks sieve through all the competing claims and evidence. 

Filed under: Climate Science Communicating Climate — group @ 10 December 2014

In the spring of 2004, when we (individually) first started talking to people about starting a blog on climate science, almost everyone thought it was a great idea, but very few thought it was something they should get involved in. Today, scientists communicating on social media is far more commonplace. On the occasion of our 10 year anniversary today it is worth reflecting on the impact of those changes, what we’ve learned and where we go next.

Why we started and why we continue

The introductory post Welcome to RealClimate set out our aspiration:
RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate scientists for the interested public and journalists. We aim to provide a quick response to developing stories and provide the context sometimes missing in mainstream commentary.

Wednesday, December 10, 2014

Steele's Ocean Acidification Horror Story, a closer look.


Examining some of the claims in the YouTube video "Recovering Whales, Ocean Acidification, and Climate Horror Stories," I wrote 
Dr. Evans, who's data Steele uses and he responded to my questions with an enlightening email, along with suggestions for further investigation.   Now that I've spent more time looking into the question of 'what' and 'how' scientists know about ocean acidification, I've decided to give Steele's talk from 2:45 to 5:59 another dissection.  

For students of The Art of the Republican Attack on Science, this will be worth your while. 

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Recovering Whales, Ocean Acidification, and Climate Horror Stories by JIm Steele (2:45-5:59)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooaZLoJXhu4&t=2m45s
Part 3 Jim Steele's Presentation to the Life Members of the International Electrical and Electronic Engineers. Jim is the author of "Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist's Journey to Climate Skepticism"
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2:45 - "Here's your question about ocean acidification.  This upwelling is a tremendous benefit.  If you do a vertical profile of the ocean, if you look at the surface the pH is gonna be around 8.2-8.3, as you drop down what you see is that it very quickly it becomes more acidic, because bacteria digest everything, we start to releasing the carbon. So you can see in the upwelling zones you can see it's down to 7.7 And when it upwells it brings it right to the coast"
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First off, notice Jim drawing his audience's attention away from how the oceans absorb CO2, instead focusing on regional upwelling of abyssal acidic waters along the continental shelf.

That's the way magicians work, draw the eye away from where the trick is happening.

Listen in on Steele's talk.  You'll hear a hint of the problem he chooses to ignore.  The surface of the ocean is on average basic ~8.2-8.3pH as Steele tells us {7 being neutral}.  CO2 is acidic and easily binds with water molecules.  We live in a world where the atmospheric CO2 concentration has skyrocketed by ~40% in a geologic blink.  How will that system behave?    How can Steele's IEEE audience be blind to that?
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3:20 - "People say on average the pH is getting more, they don't know that.  It's a model."

Sunday, December 7, 2014

AmericanThinker: Another hottest year since 1880, Murphy Say What?


On the way to doing other things this morning, I came across a freshly minted article at the AmericanThinker written by one Paul Murphy.  Going though it, I thought: Great, just what we need, another rambling kindergarden-ish cherry-picking collage.  Yea, sure, climate has always changed, tell us something we don't know.  Thing is we are living in today!  

Then it started ragging on SkepticalScience.com with childish reasoning and I decided here was another article for my collection.  Though, this time my review will be short, mainly a few observations, followed by a listing of some recent studies looking at what's happening at the North and South Poles of our one and only Earth.
"Yet Another Hottest Year Since 1880?" 
By Paul Austin Murphy | 12/6/2014
www.AmericanThinker.com

Friday, December 5, 2014

How to Debate Every Time - Troll Redsilverj

{edited 12/11/14 evening}
I came across a video that's too ridiculous to share or talk about, except that it did remind me of a simple experiment people can do to understand why warming our Global Heat Distribution Engine (system) read "Climate" will result in way wilder weather than we are prepared to deal with.

And it's also my own little experiment to check out my new concept about tracking YouTube comments with screenshots.

 {Updated 12/7/12, early - H/T Potholer54}

There are two kinds of skeptics, 
complete skeptic (that includes self-skepticism) and 
one-directional skeptic (aka contrarian types) 

There are two kinds of debate
one where 
learning is the goal,
the other 
debate for debate {and fortune'$} sake.

In the first 

you listen to and weigh your opponent's information and arguments, with the goal being to use opposing arguments to better understand one's own reasoning and justifications.

To learn from evidence and arguments... allowing the best to inspire reevaluating our own understanding.  That's how we learn, and evolve, how we get better and move forward as we travel through our short lives. Hey and sometimes it hurts and our egos get bruised but that's part of the game of life and growing...  know what I mean?

The second is 
all about personal point scoring 
relying on tricks rather than a serious dialogue 
it has no interest in learning or truth, 
only in "winning".

Wednesday, December 3, 2014

Recovering Whales, Ocean Acidification the Jim Steele Horror Story - reviewed


Or, what a tangled web Steele weaves.

There's a tactic called the "Gish Gallop" where a speaker tosses out so many varied claims that it's impossible for the serious listener to keep up.  Steele has perfected this skill, but it's easy for him since his audience (Life Members of the International Electrical and Electronic Engineers) only wants to hear reassurances that they have nothing to worry about and can continue consuming like there's no tomorrow. 

I'm more serious and skeptical, so I've taken the time to chase after the various bones Steele tosses out.  This post will focus on his claims regarding whale population recovery thanks to La Nina along with Steele's bizarre take on the ocean acidification story*
*{for an update on that mischief, link here}

Recovering Whales, Ocean Acidification, and Climate Horror Stories by JIm Steele (considering 0:00 to 6:00)


update December 8, 2014
Wiley Evans, Ph.D. shares some thoughts regarding Steele's description of ocean pH studies.