opit writes: You say it is quibbling about minutae to argue about warming when it is not feasible to measure the aggregate of such ? Science is based on measurement.
opit writes: That is why it is particularly interesting that Dr. Roy Spencer~ ~ ~
in charge of satellite temperature measurement ( and many NASA scientists ) dispute not just particulars, but the representations of gross change being linked to CO 2 rise.
Dr. Roy Spencer is an extreme outlier scientist who's on the board of directors of the George C. Marshall Institute and a favorite of Heartland Institute and folks like Senator Inhofe - all three being totally focused on shaping policy with zero interest in learning about Earth's geophysical processes and climate science.
who willfully accept transparent con jobs and bromides that lull themselves into a comfortable hollywood inspired myth that they will never have to change their desires and habits.
Unfortunately, the change is coming and the longer these folks continue ignoring the situation the more catastrophic it will be for our children and their children.
opit writes: NASA is therefore an interesting resource, as it is contradicted by its own staff. http://ricochet.com/main-feed/50-NASA-Scientists-Against-Global-Warming, and article by the notorious
For a review of the many errors made in that letter see :http://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/04/25/errors-shortcomings-void-nasa-climate-letter/
"On March 28, 2012, 49 former NASA astronauts, scientists, engineers, and administrators sent a letter to NASA administrator Charles Bolden Jr. The letter requested that NASA in general and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in particular stop publishing the scientific conclusions about the human-driven causes of global climate disruption.
The letter was filled with no less than six serious errors regarding the science, data, and facts of climate science. The errors, in turn, exposed that the signers had confused their fame and/or their expertise in unrelated fields with expertise in climate science.
And in response, NASA’s chief scientist politely suggested that the letter’s authors and signers should publish any contrary hypotheses and data in peer-reviewed scientific journals instead of trying to censor the publication of scientific conclusions from NASA climate scientists."
"Based on the job titles listed in the letter signatures, by my count they include 23 administrators, 8 astronauts, 7 engineers, 5 technicians, and 4 scientists/mathematicians of one sort or another (none of those sorts having the slightest relation to climate science). Amongst the signatories and their 1,000 years of combined professional experience, that appears to include a grand total of zero hours of climate research experience, and zero peer-reviewed climate science papers. You can review the signatories for yourself here."
"opit" goes on: Now I know Daily Mail is not a scientist's resource - but when such are challenged as unreliable, the field is open morninlibertycom-2014/01/19/scientists-say-no-to-global-warming-prepare-for-ice-age
What's he know about climate science, or Earth observations? But he does know what he hates - anyone who has any concern for "nature"... that would be our biosphere and our life support system.
He's the type that seems to believe we are still living in the 1800/1900s with a wild open country waiting to be tamed.
Oh, as for that coming ice age - nonsense. Mind you, if society had not come along it is quite probable Earth would be heading into an ice age. But the simple physics of increasing our planet's GHG insulation by a third and growing - has precluded that possibility. But, you have to want to learn about the real science to know about such realities.
opit finishes with: So my assessment comes out more like http://blogs.denverpost.com/eletters/2013/07/26/the-scientists-who-dispute-global-warming-theory-2-letters/24180/ And the representations for AGW are arrogant and unwilling to accept alternative on~ ~ ~
Off in Oregon the founder of "Jesus-Plus-Nothing-Else" home-school system gets together with the masterful PR of doubt pioneer Fred Seitz, and protégés Willy Soon, Sallie Baliunas, and they created a National Academy of Sciences look alike document, then they tacked on a petition and handed it out for anyone to sign, climate science knowledge optional, identities not verified - and this "consensus" they use to dismiss full time hard working professionals and decades worth of data. Now that's some might powerful arrogance and willful ignorance at work.
Its aim is to keep everyone's Eyes Off The Prize, isn't it Opit? … and so tragically successful.
(It’s actually Arthur Robinson’s farm in very rural Oregon)
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