Richard Lindzen joins Alex Epstein to talk about perspectives on climate change:
- Questions about climate
- “Balance” in nature
- The goals of environmentalists
1:45 Alex: Whenever I read one of his papers I get almost emotional just by the level of clarity and diligence and utter lack of any kind of appeal to authority.
I remember he was on this show last time, despite all his credentials the number one thing he encouraged was for people to do the research, look into things themselves. ... and I really consider that a very good indication for the quality of scientist and the quality of person someone is. ...
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3:05 Lindzen: What bothers me about this issue is the intrinsic obtuseness of the questions. For instance in these public consensus statements and so on, it's always is there agreement that CO2 plays a roll, or climate changes and so on. These are things which in fact everyone agrees on.
Those are not the questions in dispute.
And yet it's presented as though if there's agreement that climate has changed, ahh, we should do something about it.
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Why we need to talk about the scientific consensus on climate change
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As our climate changes, the risk of injury, illness, and death from the resulting heat waves, wildfires, intense storms, and floods rises.
Scientists and economists are beginning to grapple with the serious economic and environmental consequences if we fail to reduce global carbon emissions quickly and deeply. The most expensive thing we can do is nothing.
Lindzen: The real questions are, you know change is normal, it always occurs, is there anything unusual,~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
One would think Lindzen was aware that change is also disruptive, and too much change, too fast, is simply destructive. Yet, it is such childish fig leaves that the Republican/libertarian masses cling to.
As for "unusual change" how's this for "unusual"?
Lindzen: is the impact of CO2 large enough to be a significant,~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
The world’s oceans may be turning acidic faster today from human carbon emissions than they did during four major extinctions in the last 300 million years, when natural pulses of carbon sent global temperatures soaring, says a new study in Science. The study is the first of its kind to survey the geologic record for evidence of ocean acidification over this vast time period. “What we’re doing today really stands out,” said lead author Bärbel Hönisch, a paleoceanographer at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory.
Lindzen: are things like global warming related in any clear way to the claims of natural disasters.~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Lindzen: And those are always left as kinda nits to pick, but you know, like once you establish climate changes, you have to do something, and the doing something is really much more akin to ancient rituals. When natural phenomena occur you do some abstract gesture to please the gods, or call them off.(giggle)The fact that the subject is presented in such a dishonest way should immediately cause suspicion.~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
What could be more dishonest than ignoring the evidence with an outlandish rhetoric device, such as invoking "akin to ancient rituals" "abstract gesture to please gods" to dismiss what you don't want to face. (This is school yard pissy student talk Dr. Lindzen you're behaving childishly.)