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Richard Lindzen joins Alex Epstein to talk about perspectives on climate change:
- Questions about climate
- “Balance” in nature
- The goals of environmentalists
1:45 Alex: Whenever I read one of his papers I get almost emotional just by the level of clarity and diligence and utter lack of any kind of appeal to authority.
I remember he was on this show last time, despite all his credentials the number one thing he encouraged was for people to do the research, look into things themselves. ... and I really consider that a very good indication for the quality of scientist and the quality of person someone is. ...
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3:05 Lindzen: What bothers me about this issue is the intrinsic obtuseness of the questions. For instance in these public consensus statements and so on, it's always is there agreement that CO2 plays a roll, or climate changes and so on. These are things which in fact everyone agrees on.
Those are not the questions in dispute.
And yet it's presented as though if there's agreement that climate has changed, ahh, we should do something about it.
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This is superficial silliness. The issue has nothing to do with "climate has changed" - the consensus statements are about our manmade emissions of greenhouse gases significantly altering our atmosphere.
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Why we need to talk about the scientific consensus on climate change
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The agreements acknowledge the obvious: If we warm up our Earth's global heat and moisture distribution engine it will create more intense weather and disrupt natural systems that have been tens of thousands of years in the making. This will lead to increasing problems for humanity and everything else.
As our climate changes, the risk of injury, illness, and death from the resulting heat waves, wildfires, intense storms, and floods rises.
http://www.climatehotmap.org/global-warming-effects/health.html
Scientists and economists are beginning to grapple with the serious economic and environmental consequences if we fail to reduce global carbon emissions quickly and deeply. The most expensive thing we can do is nothing.
http://www.climatehotmap.org/global-warming-effects/economy.html
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Lindzen: The real questions are, you know change is normal, it always occurs, is there anything unusual,~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
One would think Lindzen was aware that change is also disruptive, and too much change, too fast, is simply destructive. Yet, it is such childish fig leaves that the Republican/libertarian masses cling to.
As for "unusual change" how's this for "unusual"?
>800,000 years of rhythm disrupted big time.
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CO2 Currently Rising Faster Than The PETM Extinction Event
June 17, 2011 by Rob Painting
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Lindzen: is the impact of CO2 large enough to be a significant,~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Carbon Dioxide Levels Just Hit Their Highest Point In 800,000 Years [Updated]
CO2 levels in atmosphere rising at dramatically faster rate, U.N. report warns
By Joby Warrick | September 9, 2014
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We shouldn't neglect the unspoken twin.
Ocean Acidification Rate May Be Unprecedented, Study Says
March 1, 2012
The world’s oceans may be turning acidic faster today from human carbon emissions than they did during four major extinctions in the last 300 million years, when natural pulses of carbon sent global temperatures soaring, says a new study in Science. The study is the first of its kind to survey the geologic record for evidence of ocean acidification over this vast time period. “What we’re doing today really stands out,” said lead author Bärbel Hönisch, a paleoceanographer at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory.
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Lindzen: are things like global warming related in any clear way to the claims of natural disasters.~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
EXTREME WEATHER AND CLIMATE CHANGE
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Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society
Vol. 95, No. 9, September 2014
EXPLAINING EXTREME EVENTS OF 2013 FROM A CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE
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How Global Warming Made Hurricane Sandy Worse
Published: November 1st, 2012
Andrew Freedman
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Lindzen: And those are always left as kinda nits to pick, but you know, like once you establish climate changes, you have to do something, and the doing something is really much more akin to ancient rituals. When natural phenomena occur you do some abstract gesture to please the gods, or call them off.(giggle)The fact that the subject is presented in such a dishonest way should immediately cause suspicion.~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
State of the Climate | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)
What could be more dishonest than ignoring the evidence with an outlandish rhetoric device, such as invoking "akin to ancient rituals" "abstract gesture to please gods" to dismiss what you don't want to face. (This is school yard pissy student talk Dr. Lindzen you're behaving childishly.)
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Dissecting professor Lindzen's intrinsic obtuseness:
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