Thursday, January 28, 2016

Poptech's indignation (#4 in comment series)

These couple of comments are pretty anticlimactic, just a bunch of whining that I wasn't posting Andrew's comments fast enough for him.  Oh and indignation that I should dare to make his comments the center of stand alone posts.  Now if he'd have actually addressed the content of those posts in any serious manner that would have been one thing, but if you look, think you'll agree they are pretty generic pitch-lines. 

Seems Poptech doesn't appreciate anyone taking a close look at his words and logic in action.  Now I predict he's going to do his best to ignore me over here.  Possibly post some nasty stuff about me at his blog, and I suspect he'll pull a Jim Steele by doing it stealthy, so I don't go over there to take a look at it.  But, if Andrew's upfront about it, so much the better.

His first comment was posted and responded to, those responses I'm sharing here, nothing else to add.  I do want to point out that as is usual with the contrarian crowd,  Andrew is too busy rationalizing and broadcasting his own self-certain storyline, to listen to, think about, or respond to what anyone else asks him.  

A very lopsided perspective on what a learning dialogue is all about.  I'll start with the final one first.  Andrew's previous comments can be linked to here one, two, three - they are more interesting than this tripe.
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January 26, 2016 at 6:56 PM Andrew has left a new comment on your post "Debating Malicious Ignorance - Poptech, a few ques...": 

If you refuse to allow my comments through on the post they were made, I will cease replying here. Let me know if I need to use your website as an example of Alarmist censorship.

FYI, I did not ask your permission to re-post anything on my website. 
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Why are you still censoring all of my comments? Do I have to re-post them at my website?
Posted by Andrew to What'sUpWithThatWatts, et al. at January 26, 2016 at 5:01 PM
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In due time. You can find your "Andrew (at 2:01AM - Jan 26, 2016)" comment over here:
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citizenschallenge said... I'm going to be presenting your comments as stand alone posts, after all this blog is about dissecting contrarian debate tactics.
Be patient, I managed one out of four this morning, tomorrow I may have more time available. 

Oh, you are welcome to post them over at your blog, I have no objections.
You're also welcome to response to my response to your 2:02AM Comment
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Oh and Poptech, Why is it OK for you to side step critical questions about world observation throughout our biosphere???

Your grand indignation is mind boggling. 
But, you feel quite comfort ignoring everything important that doesn't fit your game plan. How's that work?

How about it? What give you the right to ignore this stuff?

til tomorrow.

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Andrew Poptech COMMENTED| January 26, 2016 at 1:22 AM

Poptech writes: "Now you are making libelous claims that I attempt to "overwhelm with self-serving rhetoric"? "

(The full comment will appear in a post of its own, when I finish my thoughtful response.) 
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Poptech stop taking yourself so ridiculously serious.

Libelous? Seriously? Oh stop. 

Just trying to sort out everything you've thrown at me which of course leads to more links of you going on and on that then lead into more wormholes. All the while shepherded by your crafty rhetoric and constant boundary setting. Sort of like you're playing master of the universe or something.

Have you ever heard of the notion that "we need each other to keep ourselves honest"? Seems to me rather than being on a search for understanding, you are in a struggle to shore up barricades. 

From the outside that Republican/libertarian echo-chamber you folks inhabit is a hideous place to imagine. Such a sterile two-dimensional sense of this planet Earth you inhabit for your short moment of life. And what about the total disregard for our children's futures - heck you don't even notice all we've lost as a society over the past decades, too dazzled by Hollyworld and dreams of too much never being enough.

Maybe you hate "Alarmist" (as though there were nothing to get damned alarmed about.) and "Warmists" and "Environmentalist" simply because we do appreciate our planet is a real organism,  Four and a half billions years worth of folds within folds of accumulating harmonic complexity flowing down the stream of time. A beautiful unfathomable thing to wonder at and learn about and to nurture, protect - heck and why not love it?

Well, that was the hope at least, we've made a pretty big mess of that, and you don't even notice. Crisis, what crisis??? or "What Me Worry!"

Rather than admit personal mistakes and beginning to learn about what's happening to this planet Earth we depend on - you turn on your fellow humans.
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Which brings me back to the beginning and your plaintiff cries of 'liable, liable'*

Dude, going through your comments and links is consuming hours worth my time, all before getting around to collecting the relevant information to support my claims. Don't tell me you're not all about overwhelming in order to confuse rather than to clarify.

*Oh and Poptech, When it comes to making liable statements about people, do I get to hold you to the same lofty standards you're trying to bludgeon me with?

As for your frantic fusillade yesterday evening, once again, rest assured I'm saving all of them, they'll get posted in due time.

I've even put a couple more important projects on the back-burner for this interesting segue.
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Oh and Poptech, I see you have no time for these Real World basics.
It's all in your self-selected lists, is that what it is?
Can you explain your disconnect?.

Once again:
Why is it OK for you to side step critical questions about world observation throughout our biosphere???

How about it? What give you the right to ignore this stuff?


But, you feel quite comfort ignoring those Real Down To Earth observations, because they doesn't fit your sphere of interest. How's that work? Oh, yeah, you're telling me all those scientists and technicians and support staff are not to be trusted. You've got your list of 900. 

Poptech - Why isn't understanding what our living geophysical planet is doing, the important thing?


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