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This is both my personal learning project and my contribution in the struggle to confront the ongoing Republican/ libertarian assault on rational science and constructive learning, as manifested in their malicious strategic Attacks on Science ~ A collection of articles, scientific resources, plus my own essays and indepth critique of various presentations from unidirectional-skeptics ~ Hopefully a resource for the busy, yet discerning, student who's concerned about the health of our Earth

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Friday, December 30, 2016

#1. Debating the Republican Disconnect from Earth's realities

It’s been awhile since I had a good online debate and I welcome the opportunity provided by a commenter to What's Up With Republican disconnect from planet Earth?. I’ll use my generic ‘Dude’ since I don’t feel comfortable using his real name, no offense intended. I myself found his comment offensive in it’s devious mischief and it seemed a careful dissection of his rhetorical game is called for. I hope some may find it a learning experience. Update, I've received an email from E.M. who requested I refer to him by his initials. He also offered a four thousand word response that I want to read through before posting it, it'll probably be Saturday night or Sunday before I'll be able to do get it posted. (12/30/16. 10PM). > It has been posted at #3 E.M. has his say. Debating the Republican Disconnect from Earth's realities.

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E.M., I don’t believe you are the innocent you pretend to be. If you were that naive you wouldn’t be commenting on AWG over here! That doesn’t mean we can’t continue a constructive dialogue, I just want you to know where we stand.

You have provided me another excellent vehicle to examine the subtle dishonest rhetorical game that the Republican PR machine broadcasts through thousands of astro-turfed mouthpieces. It brings me back to what this blog was all about before the 11/8/16 catastrophe and I thank you for that opportunity.

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E.M.: Morning,

Glad we can have this discussion, and I appreciate your timely response. I am not here to to argue the existence of the human-contribution to climate change; this is an unarguable topic and it is widely accepted on both sides of the debate.

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Nonsense! The right wing media machine is saturated with people denying the fundamentals of AGW. Just need to google it, or try YouTube for hundreds of real zingers. {This deception is the first “tell” that we are dealing with a disingenuous individual.}

You say you don't want to argue about the existence of the human-contribution to climate change and then proceed to do just that in a wishy-washy way. What gives?

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E.M.: Honestly, I think both sides of the AWG debate are self-interested and self-serving.

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Why do you think the scientific community has been self-serving?

Please offer some examples.

Voter Suppression USA Election 2016, collection of news stories

Our US government is literally under a hostile take over attempt. A healthy democracy demands an informed and engaged citizenry. I am borrowing from the DailyKos again because this Trump Administration is playing for keeps and a lot more Americans need to wake up and become familiar with what's going on and I can't help but feel compelled to do my little part. If a lot more people don't start taking all this a lot more seriously our losses will be grave. Following Raven's article I include quotes and links to:

The Elephant in the Room: Voter Suppression Was a Factor in the Election
Republicans were wildly successful at suppressing voters in 2016

How the Presidential election is rigged: voter suppression

Law enforcement investigating misleading rob-calls to Oregon Voters

Voter Suppression Is a Much Bigger Problem Than Voter Fraud

Special Report: Something's Rotten In The State of Pennsylvania

Understanding Congressional Gerrymandering: 'It's Moneyball Applied To Politics'

Voter Suppression Tactics: Greg Palast and Brad Friedman lay it all out, Nov 21, 2014

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The Elephant in the Room: Voter Suppression Was a Factor in the Election

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/27/1614984/-The-Elephant-in-the-Room-Voter-Suppression-Was-a-Factor-in-the-Election

By Raven | Tuesday Dec 27, 2016

Recently another diary — ironically subtitled “Beware the False Narrative” — sought to explain “why we are losing everywhere but a handful of blue states.” The real, honest-to-gosh truth, as the diarist went on to burble? — “urban areas just turned out less for Hillary Clinton” and “the lower income end fled the Democratic parties banner” and “The real culprit was collapsing support for Clinton” … and commenters gleefully joined in blaming either the voters or the Clinton campaign or the Democratic Party as a whole.

Not until well down the thread (in a comment by Ashes of Roses, thanks!) did anyone mention voter suppression, and that was immediately disputed: the first reply included “… ‘voter suppression’ should have meaning other than just less participation.” Others insisted the reason was “disengagement,” “disgust,” etc., on the part of voters, but not being prevented from voting.

Gosh, nothing before this about voter suppression? disenfranchisement? The GOP’s kicked people off the voter registration lists with Crosscheck (whose architect Kris Kobach is now Trump’s “immigration advisor”), closed 868 polling places in African-American and Latino districts across the South for this election, has been working hard at Voter ID laws nationwide — and boasting about the results!

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{edited 12/11/2014}

I know there are too many typos, what can I say, eyes aren't what they were, I get rushed, and always did have a thing with transposing…{well, I also hated high school "english" classes... bad call that one.}. Doing the best I can with what I got. Embarrassing though it is, it's better than doing nothing. Besides, it's the issues and reasoning that we should be worrying about.

Though I'm in my own little world here, I'm also constantly learning and evolving and do get occasional feedback and when I reread stuff and find errors or omissions or garbage, I fix it. If it's major I'll acknowledge it with an 'edited' note, minor stuff I don't bother.

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I hardly keep track of Anthony's latest antics (besides, with Sou on the job why bother - can't beat her insights). It's just me over here and I have more important things to do with my precious hours - still now that Anthony's luster has been wearing thin he's put his energy into discovering and honing new fresh faces to carry on the public show of the Republican/Libertarian strategic attack on science.

He seems to have transitioned into a ring-leader, perhaps mentor/coach would be better, producer? At least that's how Mr. Steele and his antics of the past year has gotten me to think about it. So in that regard this blog remains about WUWT's brand of thinking and logic and my struggle to understand the anatomy of the fraud they've perpetrated against mankind. {December 2014}

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ok, now some recommended websites:

This blog was started in April 2013 and is written by an actual scientist so it has a refreshingly serious objective air to it, plus he does a good clear job of explaining complex issues.

And Then There's Physics.
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Sou has some of the best {readability and detailed} examinations of Watt's antics I've seen - and she does have fun with certain characters.

She continues be the best at keeping up with Mr. Watts' and pals and their many deceptions.

The recent dirty tricks and attacks she is enduring are acknowledgment of how good she is at it.

http://blog.hotwhopper.com

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Ben has been documenting Anthony's misdeeds longer than the rest of us.

http://wottsupwiththat.com

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Tamino, an acknowledged statistical/mathematical expert of the highest order, at Open Mind also does an excellent job of holding Anthony’s feet to the fire with clearly explained facts and math. Check it out:
http://tamino.wordpress.com
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And of course, there is the excellent, most up to date internet depository of climate studies and information for the non-expert public.

http://SkepticalScience.com

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Then there's RealClimate.org the scientist's commentary site. Run by working climate scientists intended to help the interested public and journalists sort through the complexities of the climatology. They provide "quick response to developing stories and provide the context" that is too often missing from public media's depiction. {But, you better be serious and have some real science education/understanding under your belt if you want to keep up.}

http://realclimate.org

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I remember back in da day, good websites/blogs were few and far between. But over the past years that's been changing to the point that it's impossible to keep up with them all. Here's an incomplete, and long overdue addition to my above list: