Step right up Mr. Steele, let the debate begin.

This morning I found this waiting for me:

Jim Steele said...

I came here once and demonstrated your lies. You deleted my posts and continued to lie. I told then, as I remind you now. I will not ever come here to engage in a sincere debate because Peter Meisler is not to be trusted. 

Set up a debate in a neutral place that can be videoed and where Peter Meisler can not manipulate the facts, then I will gladly debate you and put your dishonest claims to rest. 

Your obsessive dishonesty has been noted many times. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/07/peter-miesler-helps-expose-ushcn-homogenization-insanity-and-antarctic-illusions/

Commented at Landscapesandcycles, Jim Steele weights in (#9 ...)
March 6, 2016 at 4:43 PM

Jim, you tell folks I've censored you.  But, we know I haven't. 

Manipulate facts, hardly.  
That's why I prefer my debates in writing;

both to clearly state what I have to say, 

and to give you something to work with, 
well, and also, so you won't be tempted to put words in my mouth.

   

If it's a matter of trust, as you claim, we can find a solution.

Send me your statement, I'll post it.  Then before I write one word, you can visit and leave a comment acknowledging that your words are accurate.  Then we can begin.

Or a far better solution would be that you send me your debate-points to post at WUWTW, while also posting them over at your Landscapes'n Cycles blog - we can check each other.   Then our respective 'fans' can keep track where they want.  I'll have my chance to confront your lies.  You'll have your chance to set me straight, fair and square.
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Jim, as you know I've done a systematic detailed review of your talk in front of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and also your January 27, 2015 interview with Heartland Institute's Sterling Bennett.

Mr. Landscapesandcycles, Jim Steele weights in (#9 ...)

Every time I think I'm done with this, there's another surprise waiting.  This morning I woke to this comment from my old pal Jim, who's claim to legitimacy comes from his years as San Francisco State University, Sierra Nevada Field Campus nature trail guide, caretaker/director, and bird watcher Jim Steele, before he became spokesman for climate science denial industry.

Jim Steele said...

My experience has been that poptech is far more honest than citizenchallegne/meisler . Meisler is just experiencing the time honored truth, What goes around comes around!

Jim has made quite the reputation himself.  He demands we debate climate science but then runs from anyone willing to debate him on the nonsense he's spewing out.  Then back within the confines of his protective echo-chamber, boy can he blast me.  It's no wonder he feels such a kinship with Poptech.  I don't have any more time for him today - but his comment has inspired me to share a couple lists of detailed reviews and the itemizing of his many lies and theatrical manipulations:
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Monday, January 12, 2015

INDEX - Jim Steele's climate science horror collection, Landscapesandcycles, 2014

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2015/01/steeles-horror-collection-2014.html

This blog has been a personal learning process and I'll admit some posts are duds, others aren't all they should be, but then, a few hit the nail.  

Since the past decade has taught me that climate science denialism is an insuperable ideological point of faith with many - I've switched my focus to the few who want to study the tactics and dynamics that climate science denialist types employ in order to misrepresent and distort the science.  These tactics are dedicated to confusing and misleading people.  

Thereby turning what should have been a sober learning process into a contorted dishonest political farce.  A farce forced on us by special-interests employing disingenuous jokers such as the "Lord" Monckton or this current rising star Mr. Jim Steele.  

Steele's message: 

A)  Local landscapes are drivers of global climate change. 

B)  Internal cycles are more powerful drivers than the atmosphere that envelopes our planet

The way I see his tactics:

    Obsessive focus on flaws in extremely challenging wildlife population studies.

    Misrepresent the scope of those flaws and the learning process. 

As an excuse to:

     Ignore the physics of atmospheric greenhouse gases.

     Ignore the fact that industrialized society has increased our planet's atmosphere's insulation medium (GHGs) by 30%.

     Ignore the fact that our climate system is a global heat and moisture distribution engine.

     Ignore the overwhelming observational evidence of continued global warming.

Employing:

    Political theater to dismiss well established science.

    Slander to disparage dedicated professional scientists.

    The magician's tactic of distraction and rhetorical sleight of hand.

    The Serengeti Strategy which is explained here and here.

(updated 3/7/16 - to reflect a recent dialogue with Jim Steele and to repeat my acceptance of Jim's repetitive insistence that there must be debate, but that he keeps hiding from.)