This article seems so popular I felt compelled to add an invitation to Mr. Weingarten: Wednesday, September 24, 2014
Surely you're joking Mr. Weingarten - updated with invite
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{edited 1/29/14 evening}
If you are trying to understand the "right wing" approach to learning about critically important climate science issues and the concept of an "even playing field" - well, here's an article for you.
It relates to Dr. Mann's lawsuit against author Mark Steyn, the National Review and Competitive Enterprise Institute for claiming he's guilty of scientific fraud. In response to another ruling in the plaintiff's favor, one Ben Weingarten wrote an artfully crafted plea for sympathy, wherein he transforms the perpetrator(s) into the victim(s). But, do his claims stand up?
It relates to Dr. Mann's lawsuit against author Mark Steyn, the National Review and Competitive Enterprise Institute for claiming he's guilty of scientific fraud. In response to another ruling in the plaintiff's favor, one Ben Weingarten wrote an artfully crafted plea for sympathy, wherein he transforms the perpetrator(s) into the victim(s). But, do his claims stand up?
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"CLIMATE CHANGE VERSUS FREE SPEECH"
Ben Weingarten | Jan. 27, 2014
{I have taken the liberty of redirecting Weingarten's self-serving links to more 'authoritative' sources - since it really does take full-time experts to understand and explain what's going on in the real physical world outside our windows.}
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Ben Weingarten: "If you dare to challenge the scientific establishment generally, and its global warming adherents specifically, you better have deep pockets and plenty of time on your hands. That is the takeaway of the last 15 months, and soon to be more, of Mark Steyn’s life. . .For those unfamiliar, Steyn, author and contributor for the “National Review,” along with Rand Simberg of the Competitive Enterprise Institute are embroiled in a defamation lawsuit with noted climate scientist Michael Mann. Mann is the famous originator of the so-called “Hockey Stick Graph” climate model."
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The hockey stick graph is based on a collection of proxy data, in itself, it has absolutely nothing to do with climate models or forecasting climate change! But, will Ben allow himself to be corrected and learn from his mistake?
{ If you want to learn about the "hockey stick graph" here's a good place to start
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/the-hockey-stick-the-most-controversial-chart-in-science-explained/275753/
About those climate models:
http://www.wmo.int/pages/themes/climate/climate_models.php }
I'd like to ask Weingarten: Why do you feel it should be legal to maliciously lie about a person's professional work with the intension of destroying their career and hiding important information from the public?
SUPERIOR COURT OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Civil Division
Case No. 2012 CA 8263 B | Judge Frederick H. Weisberg
{I've inserted some paragraph breaks for clarity}
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Mann_v_NR_Weisberg_Order_1-22-14.pdf
"Opinions and rhetorical hyperbole are protected speech under the First Amendment. Arguably, several of defendants’ statements fall into these protected categories. Some of defendants’ statements, however, contain what could reasonably be understood as assertions of fact.
Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently, manipulating his data to achieve a predetermined or political outcome, or purposefully distorting the scientific truth are factual allegations. They go to the heart of scientific integrity. They can be proven true or false. If false, they are defamatory. If made with actual malice, they are actionable. ...
In Count VII, plaintiff alleges that CEI published, and National Review republished, the following defamatory statement: “Mann could be said to be the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that instead of molesting children, he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet.”
The allegedly defamatory aspect of this sentence is the statement that plaintiff “molested and tortured data,” not the rhetorically hyperbolic comparison to convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky.
To “molest” means “to annoy, disturb, or persecute esp. with hostile intent or injurious effect.” Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary 741 (1977). To “torture” means “to twist or wrench out of shape”; and to “distort or over refine a meaning or an argument.”
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Id. at 1233. The statement “he has molested and tortured data” could easily be interpreted to mean that the plaintiff distorted, manipulated, or misrepresented his data. Certainly the statement is capable of a defamatory meaning, which means the questions of whether it was false and made with “actual malice” are questions of fact for the jury.
A reasonable reader, both within and outside the scientific community, would understand that a scientist who molests or tortures his data is acting far outside the bounds of any acceptable scientific method.
In context, it would not be unreasonable for a reader to interpret the comment, and the republication in National Review, as an allegation that Dr. Mann had committed scientific fraud, which Penn State University then covered up, just as some had accused the University of covering up the Sandusky scandal.
For many of the reasons discussed in Judge Combs Greene’s July 19 orders, to state as a fact that a scientist dishonestly molests or tortures data to serve a political agenda would have a strong likelihood of damaging his reputation within his profession, which is the very essence of defamation. ...
Viewing the alleged facts in the light most favorable to plaintiff, as the court must on a motion to dismiss, a reasonable jury is likely to find the statement that Dr. Mann “molested and tortured data” was false, was published with knowledge of its falsity or reckless disregard of whether it was false or not, and is actionable as a matter of law irrespective of special harm. ...
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Ben Weingarten: Dr. Mann filed suit against Steyn, Simberg and the “National Review” on Oct. 22, 2012. In his complaint he leveled varying libel charges against each of the defendants. Herein I focus on the allegations against Steyn in particular since his prospective hockey stick beheading as sacrifice to the scientific gods upon the altar of global warming is the most well-chronicled, and based on the least compelling evidence against the two individuals in the case.
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Ben claims "least compelling evidence" - the court disagrees, and explains why (see above)
Besides Steyn's own words speak for themselves.
The real issue is Ben's starting point, namely, he believes telling malicious lies about a professional's work is fair-play.
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Ben Weingarten: Steyn has incurred literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees over the last 15 months defending himself against the following charge from Dr. Mann . . . Got that? Make fun of a climate scientist and be prepared to lawyer up.
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trying to destroy an honest scientist's career, using lies and dirty tricks, is what's unacceptable - and deserves to be punished!
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Ben Weingarten: Now before we proceed, we need not get into the science of global warming or climate change or whatever it’s being called this week, “Climategate” or Rand Simberg’s comments comparing Michael Mann to a fellow former Penn State employee Jerry Sandusky for “molested and tortured data.” ...
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Ben Weingarten: And I do not intend to debate the merits of the case, however weak from a non-legalistic perspective I think Mann’s position may be,
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Of course not.
Because Ben has nothing to defend.
In usual denier fashion he make a lot of claims, tosses out a lot of insults and innuendos - but never says anything of real substance that anything can be built on - the way a real scientist would do. Smoke and mirrors is all Ben has to offer.
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given that the couple of phrases that offended Mann look mild compared to the typical invectives hurled at people who stake out what Mann himself pejoratively calls the “climate denier” position;
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Steyn claims Mann fabricates his data and Ben consider that mild - then he comes up with all sorts of rationalizations for justifying Steyn's malicious unfounded attacks on Dr. Mann's work.
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and however hard it is to believe that Mann has suffered at all, given that as he has argued as recently as two weeks ago in a “New York Times” article “the overwhelming consensus among climate scientists is that human-caused climate change is happening.”
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The Discovery of Global Warming
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The Earth’s Energy Budget – Part One
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Climate Change 2013:
The Physical Science Basis
The Physical Science Basis
IPCC Working Group I Contribution to AR5
The Twelfth Session of Working Group I (WGI-12)
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Ben Weingarten: While all of these topics are ripe for discussion, and I urge you to research them yourselves, what really matters is the fact that Steyn, Simberg and the “National Review” were forced to defend themselves in a court of law in the first place. …
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Actually Ben, seems to me Anthony Watts, Fred Singer, Pat Michaels, Lord Monckton, McIntyre and that whole slew of shills should be forced into a court of law in order to defend their insistence on the right to endlessly repeat lie after verifiable lie to the public about something as crucial as global warming. They are strategically and with malice hindering an honest learning process regarding the science of global warming and climate change and they deserve be held accountable.
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Ben Weingarten: On Dec. 19 2013, a Washington D.C. Appeals Court ruled that all appeals relating to Dr. Mann’s original complaint were deemed moot (loss number two). ...All of this is a way of saying that if you write a blog post calling a scientist, let alone a climate scientist a fraud, you better retract that statement or your life will become a living hell.
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Dear global warming science deniers, try to suspend your convictions and fears for a moment and look at the information respectable professionals, and fellow humans, have gathered for our collective education:
The IPCC has produced a video on its Fifth Assessment Report (AR5). The first part on the Working Group I contribution to AR5 is now available. The other parts will be released with the successive approvals of the other two Working Group contributions and the Synthesis Report in the course of 2014.
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Ben Weingarten: "Steyn’s case is a quintessential example of the chilling of free speech, on a subject the importance of which is absolutely crucial given the billions of dollars in pending redistributed wealth and economic activity blocked by regulation all based on climate science. ...And for however much the sticks and stones thrown at Mann may have harmed him, one would be hard-pressed to argue that the punishment of sitting through over a year of litigation that went nowhere, replete with thousands of hours wasted and hundreds of thousands of dollars sunk is far worse. ..."
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It's like Ben Weingarten has absolutely no conception of how much weather impacts every aspect of our complex modern society, all he can think of is unfettered wealth accumulation. The increasing tempo of infrastructure destroying extreme weather events should be a clear warning that this is for real, and if left ignored, it will get out of hand.
Intensifying climate change will disrupt all the things Weingarten and the rest of us love about our modern world - when will we be allowed to stop ignoring that reality?
further reading:
further reading:
"A Win for the Climate Scientist Who Skeptics Compared to Jerry Sandusky"
By Mariah Blake | Fri Jan. 24, 2014
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Finishing all this, I'm reminded of a
Yiddish definition for Chutzpah:
Yiddish definition for Chutzpah:
"Being convicted of killing his parents,
Ben begs the court's leniency on the grounds
that he is an orphan."
that he is an orphan."
4 comments:
So then will Mann be releasing ALL his tree ring data to show that he didn't abuse and manipulate the data?
By ALL tree ring data, aren't you actually demanding ALL of Mann's working notes and any other scrap that has anything to do with his proxy work? Why you need all that stuff?
Can you explain what is missing from these publicly available tree ring data sources?
Discovered and revealed! - Where the climate codes and data have been hiding
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2013/07/discovered-and-revealed-where-climate.html
Can you explain yourself?
Or are you just mindlessly repeating a mantra you've heard?
The MWP existed. Fact. Therefore those who try to argue it away by torturing and twisting data are dishonest in intent and effect. and the hockey stick graph exemplifies this. What is the opposite of a scientist? A climate scientist.
Yea, the MWP existed, no problem.
Lets see if you can produce one example of an actual climatologist claiming that the MWP didn't happen.
Can you support your comment?
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But more important than that, what do you know about the MWP?
Please share some information about the MWP and what lesson you think we should learn from it.
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Please can you explain what it is about the MWP that makes you think we should ignore what we are doing to our atmosphere today and what those consequences will be?
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Beyond that, stop ignoring the main issue in this post, namely the right-wing's tactic of endlessly repeating malicious lies about a first rate scientist's professional work - in order to keep everyone away from seriously learning about what we are doing to our planet!
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