"Unknown on 11/25/15" made a comment at "part 2 - Debating a sock-puppet" that was another text book sock puppet routine, keep throwing crap at the messenger so that we all will ignore the basics and the evidence.
Considering the amount of time it took looking his nonsense and then coming up with the information needed to clarify his delusions I'm going to post this as a stand alone. (touch up edits 11/27/15 AM)
UN11/25 Writes: NOAA under congressional investigation, NASA's temperatures fabricated (www.breitbartcom/big-government/2015/11/24/german-professor-nasa-fiddled-climate-data-unbelievable-scale/)
Oh boy and what a story 'breitbart' has for us: "Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert is a retired geologist and data computation expert. He has painstakingly examined and tabulated all NASA GISS’s temperature data series, taken from 1153 stations and going back to 1881. His conclusion: that if you look at the raw data, as opposed to NASA’s revisions, you’ll find that since 1940 the planet has been cooling, not warming."
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Oh, but wait. This story was written by that James Delingpole, an extreme libertarian who sees everything as a government plot out to destroy his way of life. He's made a habit of rejecting climate science and professes to believe there's been no global warming since 1998. Not exactly a stable source to get one's information from. He's more cult figure than source of information.
What about the folks who work with this data? What do they explain? :
GISS Surface Temperature Analysis (GISTEMP)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Q. Why use the adjusted rather than the "raw" data?
A. GISS uses temperature data for long-term climate studies. For station data to be useful for such studies, it is essential that the time series of observations are consistent, and that any non-climatic temperature jumps, introduced by station moves or equipment updates, are corrected for. In adjusted data the effect of such non-climatic influences is eliminated whenever possible. Originally, only documented cases were adjusted, however the current procedure used by NOAA/NCEI applies an automated system that uses systematic comparisons with neighboring stations to deal with undocumented instances of artificial changes. The processes and evaluation of these procedures are described in numerous publications — for instance, Menne et al., 2010 and Venema et al., 2012 — and at the NOAA/NCEI website.
Q. Does GISS do any data checking and alterations?
A. Yes. GISS applies semi-automatic quality control routines listing records that look unrealistic. After manual inspection, those data are either kept or rejected. GISS does make an adjustment to deal with potential artifacts associated with urban heat islands, whereby the long-term regional trend derived from rural stations is used instead of the trends from urban centers in the analysis.
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Nothing False About Temperature Data
Dave Levitan | Feb 12, 2015
The “report” to which Palmer referred was actually a series of blog posts, written by climate change denier Paul Homewood, which were then highly publicized in two stories by Christopher Booker in the Daily Telegraph in London. Both writers focused on the adjustments made to temperature readings at certain monitoring stations around the world, and claimed that those adjustments throw the entire science of global warming into question. This is not at all the case, and those adjustments are a normal and important part of climate science.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the U.S. agency responsible for monitoring national and global temperature trends, has addressed these types of adjustments several times before. NOAA addresses the subject in a Q&A on its website ...
Another interesting story with actual experts explaining what these adjustments are all about.
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Now for a look into this author's background:
James Delingpole leads Telegraph into vicious climate over email
George Monbiot - Jan 27, 2010
I think I have worked out where commentator James Delingpole is coming from. He pretends to be a climate change denier and enemy of environmentalists. In reality he's a mole, paid by Greenpeace to inflict as much damage on the anti-green cause as possible. And he's doing a marvellous job.
His blog posts for the Telegraph consist of the kind of ill-informed viciousness provided for free by trolls on comment threads everywhere, but raised by an order of magnitude. He puts a wrecking ball through any claims the denial lobby might have to being civilised, intelligent or serious. His followers act as an echo-chamber, magnifying his nastiness. Between them they succeed in alienating anyone who might want an informed debate. But this week he surpassed himself.
On Sunday he published a letter sent to a Conservative candidate asking about his position on climate change. Here's what the letter said: ... http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/jan/27/james-delingpole-climate-change-denial
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The bellicose Telegraph climate sceptic has complained to the BBC of being 'intellectually raped' on Horizon during an interview with Nobel prize-winner Sir Paul Nurse ...
But I must confess, I am also intrigued to see one of the most forthright and at times vicious commentators on global warming, James Delingpole, torn apart (by his own admission) in an interview.
The Telegraph blogger is not on the receiving end of an acerbic Jeremy Paxman or belligerent John Humphrys. He is questioned by the new president of the Royal Society, the distinguished geneticist and Nobel prize-winner Sir Paul Nurse. ... http://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2011/jan/24/james-delingpole-tv-interview
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By Phil Plait | Sept 26, 2013
... The real meat of his (Delingpole) column starts with this:
At the heart of the problem lie the computer models which, for 25 years, have formed the basis for the IPCC’s scaremongering: they predicted runaway global warming, when the real rise in temperatures has been much more modest. So modest, indeed, that it has fallen outside the lowest parameters of the IPCC’s prediction range. The computer models, in short, are bunk.
Actually, no. They didn’t predict “runaway” warming, they use models of the atmosphere checked against real measurements to make predictions of future temperatures. The warming predicted was steady and unsettling, but hardly “runaway”. Delingpole’s use of the term is a strawman.
Next, the real rise in temperatures has not fallen outside “the lowest parameters” (he means lowest range) of the predictions. ... http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/26/climate_change_denial_james_delingpole_tells_it_like_it_isn_t.html
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A study’s results are badly mischaracterized by The Register, Express, and Breitbart to push a political agenda of climate denial
Dana Nuccitelli | Thursday 15 October 2015
Dana Nuccitelli | Thursday 15 October 2015
However, several conservative media outlets falsely claimed that the study had uncovered a “global cooling process.” Writing for Breitbart, James Delingpole claimed that the paper “may pose a serious threat to man-made global warming theory.” The Register and Express both claimed that temperatures have been stable for 15 years (they’ve actually risen by about 0.2°C during that time), and that this paper could explain that fictional temperature stability.
The problem lies in the fact that unlike Carbon Brief, whose reporters discussed the study and its implications with two climate scientists including one of the study authors, these conservative media outlets tried to interpret its meaning on their own. This led to mischaracterizations of the paper that Professor Forster described as “quite crazy.”
All of these conservative media pieces misrepresenting the paper shared another characteristic. Each revealed its bias by wishfully suggesting the international climate negotiations that will soon be held in Paris could be undermined by the study’s findings.
Rather than contact the study’s authors or any other climate scientists, the Express and Breitbart quoted Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist, climate fake expert, and director of the anti-climate policy Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF). ...
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Delingpole's credentials - Degree in English Literature, libertarian climate science denier with a grudge. Believes there's been no global warming since 1998.
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Delingpole has disputed the findings of climate science on global warming for a number of years. He has written "I am not a scientist and have never claimed to be,"and that he does not have a science degree, but is "a believer in empiricism and not spending taxpayers' money on a problem that may well not exist."
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Sadly this is exactly the type of clown that Republican/libertarians have no problem embracing. It's not about learning anything, for them it's all about defending a hopeless belief system.
Now we get to the author of this lying contrarian meme Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert a retired geologist and data computation expert and member of "EIKE" who's rallying cry is: "Not the climate is at risk, but our freedom! Environmental protection: Yes! Climate protection: No".
Apparently the dude is oblivious to how much our freedom is dependent on the healthy of our environment. More of that complacent disregard for the complexities of society and life, in favor of stupid political bromides.
Apparently the dude is oblivious to how much our freedom is dependent on the healthy of our environment. More of that complacent disregard for the complexities of society and life, in favor of stupid political bromides.
These people think that ignoring what's happening to our climate system is demanded because of their own short-sighted economic interests, not because of any scientific basis.
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UN11/25 continues: Stern caught lying in the telegraph (www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2015/11/25/the-perils-of-being-a-mouthpiece)
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Yeah try reading that blog - paranoia and conspiracy ideation with links not going to anything directly quoting Stern, but other heresy articles written in the same near hysterical style that makes a demon out of everyone they don't like.
Great for fueling political passions, but utterly worthless when it comes to learning about how our global heat and moisture distribution engine operates. Bishop-hill-net has a history of attacking Nicholas Stern - here's a interesting response to another recent PR gambit:
FRIDAY, AUGUST 28, 2015
Bishop Hill thinks they've caught Nicholas Stern in a contradiction, saying one thing in 2009 and another in 2015. So let's take a look, using BH's own links.
Lord Stern said that although robust expansion could be achieved until 2030 while avoiding dangerous levels of greenhouse gas emissions, rich nations may then have to consider reining in growth...."At some point we would have to think about whether we want future growth. We don't have to do that now."
(Emphasis added.) That would be the second sentence of the article BH linked to.
And Stern 2015:
...Professor Stern, the chair of the Grantham research institute on climate change and the environment, said that it was a false dichotomy to posit growth against climate action. “To portray them as in conflict is to misunderstand economic development and the opportunities that we now have to move to the low-carbon economy,” he said. “To pretend otherwise is diversionary and indeed creates an ‘artificial horse race’ which can cause real damage to the prospects for agreement.” Green parties in Europe have often argued that decarbonisation requires an end to the model of economic growth “at all costs”. But Stern said that there was now “much greater understanding of how economic growth and climate responsibility can come together and, indeed, how their complementarity can help drive both forward”.
(Emphasis added.) In both cases Stern appears to be focusing on the short to medium term, and in both cases saying there's not a conflict between economic growth and addressing climate change. … (for more on this see) http://rabett.blogspot.com/2015/08/dear-bishop-hill-read-your-links-also.html
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UN11/25 continues: now Yeo loses his libel for being a paid for green stooge with the judge calling his evidence: “implausible”, “unreliable”, “not honest”,”dishonest”, “untruthful”, “untrue” and “unworthy of belief”. (www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2015/11/25/yeoful-fail)
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What in the world does Tim Yeo have to do with honestly listening to what climate scientists are reporting, is beyond me. But it's typical of the disingenuous distractions and misdirections climate science contrarians depend on. 'Keeping our eyes off the prize' is their goal.
For a more level-headed review of the Yeo story, http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/tim-yeo-loses-libel-case-sunday-times-tory-mp
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UN11/25 continues: Antarctic ice growing.
Wrong!
Antarctic Ice Mass Loss: Jan. 2004 - June 2014
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Admittedly sea ice around Antarctica grew to record breaking extents, but with study that increased sea ice is understood within the context of global warming - oh and don't look now but
"2015 Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Breaks Streak of Record Highs"
Oct 21 2015 | weather.com
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Does Global Warming Actually Increase Antarctic Sea Ice?
JUL 31, 2015 / BY Patrick J. Kiger
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UN11/25 continues: satellites still plodding along showing the pause is real.
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But, only if you confine your learning to ClimateDepot's distortions and ignore everything else!
Incidentally, do you understand the difference between global surface temperatures and our climate system's heat content?
Your supposed hiatus occurred in global surface calculations (excluding polar regions and other spots) - but the surface only contains about 10% of our climate system's heat energy - the oceans contain 90% and that has continued increasing unabated. As for surface temperature those never really stopped increasing either, if you honestly look at all the data, not just one particular and incomplete temperature set of convenience.
Your supposed hiatus occurred in global surface calculations (excluding polar regions and other spots) - but the surface only contains about 10% of our climate system's heat energy - the oceans contain 90% and that has continued increasing unabated. As for surface temperature those never really stopped increasing either, if you honestly look at all the data, not just one particular and incomplete temperature set of convenience.
As for the particular meme peddled by the infamous team of Roy Spencer, John Christy, and William Braswell at UAH. John Abraham had an interesting article looking into their satellite data - A story of competing teams and accuracy.
One satellite data set is underestimating global warming
A new study suggests that the University of Alabama at Huntsville is lowballing the warming of the atmosphere
John Abraham | March 25, 2015
A very important study was just published in the Journal of Climate a few days ago. This paper, in my mind, makes a major step toward reconciling differences in satellite temperature records of the mid-troposphere region. As before, it is found that the scientists (and politicians) who have cast doubt on global warming in the past are shown to be outliers because of bias in their results.
The publication, authored by Stephen Po-Chedley and colleagues from the University of Washington, discusses some major sources of error in satellite records.
For instance, after satellites are launched, they scan the Earth’s atmosphere and calibrate the atmospheric measurements using a warm target onboard the satellite and cold space. The accuracy with which the atmospheric measurements are calibrated can influence the inferred temperature of the atmosphere (called the warm-target bias).
Additionally, over the years, multiple satellites have been launched and the selection of which satellite data are used can play a role.
Finally, biases can occur because the satellite orbits drift during their lifetime and the influence of diurnal temperature variation can affect the global temperature trends.
Of these three errors, the last one (probably the most important one), was the focus of the just-published paper. ...
It is known that there is a problem because there are multiple groups that create satellite temperature records. For instance, NOAA, Remote Sensing Systems (RSS), and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH). The problem is, their results don’t agree with each other.
In particular, the UAH team, led by Dr. John Christy and Dr. Roy Spencer (who have discounted the importance and occurrence of climate change for years) present results that differ quite a bit from the others. In fact, in the current paper, it is stated that “Despite using the same basic radiometer measurements, tropical TMT trend differences between these groups differ by a factor of three.”
In particular, the UAH team, led by Dr. John Christy and Dr. Roy Spencer (who have discounted the importance and occurrence of climate change for years) present results that differ quite a bit from the others. In fact, in the current paper, it is stated that “Despite using the same basic radiometer measurements, tropical TMT trend differences between these groups differ by a factor of three.”
Interesting article and well worth your time. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/mar/25/one-satellite-data-set-is-underestimating-global-warming
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Satellite measurements of the troposphere confirm warming trend, data shows
Hot on the heels of the news that 2014 was likely the warmest year on record at Earth’s surface, scientists have confirmed the lower part of Earth’s atmosphere is warming too.
Since 1979, the troposphere has warmed by 0.14 degrees per decade, scientists at the University of Huntsville (UAH) Alabama conclude.
Whether you choose to look at temperatures at Earth’s surface or higher up in the atmosphere, nine of the 10 hottest years on record have now occurred in the 21st century.
A tropospheric record
Earlier this week, the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) confirmed Earth’s surface in 2014 – that’s the air above land and the top of the ocean – was most likely the warmest it’s been during the modern temperature record, stretching back to at least the late 19th century.
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UN11/25 finishes: The global warming scam is now so riddled scandal that I'm sure there's one I've forgotten. So, not going too well is it!
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Nah, I'm afraid the problem is with people's ability to face frightening news. Your case is made by misrepresenting facts and ignoring facts, your self-censorship of reading material simply reinforces what you want to believe, it certainly does not inform or educate.
Although I will agree with you, things are not going too well at all.
Robust Responses of the Hydrological Cycle to Global Warming
JOURNAL OF CLIMATE VOLUME 19
ISAAC M. HELD
NOAA/Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, Princeton
BRIAN J. SODEN
Rosenstiel School for Marine and Atmospheric Science, University of Miami
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Increasing water cycle extremes in California and in relation to ENSO cycle under global warming
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Climate Change Has Intensified the Global Water Cycle
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Global Warming and the Hydrologic Cycle
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Water Impacts of Climate Change
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Global warming is accelerating the global water cycle
Posted on 8 October 2010 by John Cook
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Some extreme weather and climate events have increased in recent decades, and new and stronger evidence confirms that some of these increases are related to human activities.
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Is Global Warming Linked to Severe Weather?
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Global Warming is Already Affecting Weather
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