Wednesday, December 23, 2015

1000frolly and how the science denying PR machine operates


Lately I've been marveling at the prodigious output of disingenuous climate science ridiculing videos by a certain 1000frolly at YouTube.  He went into over-drive around the Paris climate conference:
4 in the past 24 hours (+4)
11 in the past 2 days (+7)
19 in the past week (+8)
27 in the past 2 weeks (+8)
31 in the past 3 weeks (+4)
39 in the past month (+8)
Everything from "The rise of eco terrorism" - "our last year of freedom?" - to "human CO2 emission are wholly beneficial" - to claiming the scientific understanding of greenhouse gases is a big hoax, of course, ignoring all the modern marvels that demand and in their own way prove that thorough understanding!  

His videos exude such a contempt for Earth's physical being and processes - along with hostility and a contrived paranoid attitude towards their 'opponents' and the established scientific community at large, that I've been increasingly curious about who's behind this YouTube Channel.  

Today I came across an indication that this 1000frolly might be the infamous  Lord  Monckton himself.  This piqued my interest since I've had a few go-arounds with both 1000frolly and the Lord himself, whom I'll admit I studied closely for a while and am in awe of, as a political performer that is.  Unfortunately, the substance of his rhetoric is loaded with malicious fraud.  

Trying to solve the mystery I visited two of his YouTube vids and asked him straight out if he was Lord Monckton, so far no response. (1000frolly has responded with the highbrow: "Sorry; I only answer scientific questions.")  Later while trying to track down more information I came across this excellent exposition on one particular chapter in the War on Science which did such a good job of detailing the networks and connection at work, including Monckton and 1000frolly, that I thought it should be added to my collection.  Regarding the mystery of who's behind 1000frolly if anyone out there has any information please do share.

Now I will hand it over to John Mashey who has done some detailed research into the ways and means of the climate science contrarian PR campaign again people's right to learn about serious climate science and their one and only planet.

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9 comments:

Bob Trenwith said...

You might be interested to know that I have discovered the identity of 1000frolly. His name is Robert Holmes. He lives in Victoria Australia, and he originally comes from Park Grove, York, UK. He owns/owned "Talbot Observatory", and this photo shows him standing in the theatrette of the observatory:
http://www.talbotobservatory.com.au/gallery5.html
This is his LinkedIn profile:
https://au.linkedin.com/in/robert-holmes-5198698a

citizenschallenge said...

That's interesting. I've sent an email to TalbotObservatory informing him of the above comment and asking:

"I've received a comment at my blog claiming that you are the person behind the YouTube Channel "Frolly1000".
I was wondering if you cared to respond?
Any information would be appreciated.
~~~~~~~~

Bob, can you explain how you came to that conclusion?

Bob Trenwith said...

Hi,

I already knew what 1000frolly looked like due to his previous profile photo on YouTube, where he actually had his head under his mortar hat. Since he changed his photo, the only place I could find his image on his site was in the following video of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ST9KcMA7Ks
Check the last few seconds of the video where he has a still of him posing with Fraud Monckton. So I knew what he looked like.

In the comment thread of his most recent video on Murry Salby, 1000frolly was asked why he had not posted many videos in recent times. His response was that he had been working on his PhD. He was asked what his PhD was about and he answered "Fugitive Greenhouse Gas Mitigation". (Note that these comments have vanished today, so he clearly recognised his error in sharing that information).

I searched for that thesis title on Google to see if I could come up with likely candidates, and the following one came up:
https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/jaes.2016.6.issue-1/jaes-2016-0005/jaes-2016-0005.xml

At this stage it was one of many canditates, although I had an inkling that this was our man. Then I found his LinkedIn profile which I previously linked you to. Note that the LinkedIn page has vanished since yesterday, which seems to confirm my claim. (I also posted a comment on one of his videos, so not sure which one of us got to him first.) This page said that Holmes owned Talbot Observatory, so I searched that to see if I could find any clues. When I found that photo, I instantly recognised him (as you should now).

Since my first comment I have found the following page:
http://www.economist.com/comment/2202994
If you scroll down to Nov 10 2013, you will see a user by the name of guest-Insoeaj who says "Check my YouTube site at 1000frolly, I have 135 videos which prove the CO2 alarm is not warranted.". He signs off as "Robert Holmes".

So it appears that at one stage he had no problem sharing his name publicly. Why has he got cold feet? Well, if you download the text of his PhD thesis, you will see that he actually quotes from the IPCC and other climate change bodies. It seems that he needed to play the climate change game in order to write his thesis, and is afraid to let fellow researchers know what his real opinions are on the subject. That is my guess anyway.

I saved the html from his LinkedIn page, so I can provide images of it if you wish. I am tempted to write to Federation University to let them know who their PhD student really is. Do you think I should do that?

Bob Trenwith said...

Note that Mr Holmes has now taken down his Talbot Observatory website.

citizenschallenge said...

That's interesting Bob,
Perhaps I'll have to resent my previous email to him and add a question about the Talbot Observatory website.
Thanks for sharing the information.

Since my email went through but I haven't received a response -
I feel more comfortable sharing the email address:

from:
to: nightsky1@bigpond.com
Aug 25 (3 days ago)

Hello,
I've received a comment at my blog claiming that you are the person behind the YouTube Channel "Frolly1000".  http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2015/12/1000frolly-monckton-denier-pr-machine.html?showComment=1472137026124#c8063099123555703930

I was wondering if you cared to respond:

Bob Trenwith said… (quote of your comment)

Any information you cared to share would be appreciated.

CC

citizenschallenge said...

Bob Trenwith you write that you discovered 1000frolly's identity.
Can you share how you discovered it.
What have you done to investigate the claim?

Bob Trenwith said...

I actually made a reply which explained that in detail, but it hasn't appeared. Could you have deleted it?

citizenschallenge said...

Bob, I checked my Spam Folder and found it in there, why it would send your comment to spam, when I've published a couple of your comments is weird. Even weirder when I clicked NOT SPAM, rather than going to moderation or being published it disappeared. Irritating since I'd only read the first sentence. Would you mind sending it again.

sorry, Peter

citizenschallenge said...

Bob - Update Wednesday 8/31/16

My email to Robert did receive a reaction, one couldn't call it a response, a reaction that opened up whole new can of worms.
Angry and aggressive, defending himself from imagined persecution, blindsiding me with a number of passionate issues,
I mean the man no malice.

I asked one simple question and was hoping for one simple honest response.
He never did answer that question. I was expecting a simple "NO, are you joking!"

My confusion is when I look at what there is about the Talbot Observatory, it's a wonderful project.
If R is responsible for building that and putting together those educational programs - I bow down to the man.
That is one beautiful effort of passion, and I am deeply impressed, even before seeing the inside.

But I don't know anything about it beyond what their local chamber of commerce shares on the internet and in a response to an email from me. Nor do I presume to, that's why I ask.

Bob, it would be cool to email with you* - 1000frolly is a malicious fraud who deserved to be taken to account for all the lies and deception he spews from his YouTube propaganda channel. Over a 130 video dedicated to stupefying gullible people.

I am absolutely not into harassing an innocent man, still that response makes me curious to learn more.
I sent R another email yesterday - Now I run off to work and to dealing with more productive and enjoyable challenges.

Best Wishes, CC


*citizenschallenge at gmail