Heartland Burnett: In earlier conversations you mentioned a couple other examples - you've already mentioned the butterfly, but you also mentioned the case of the Emperor Penguin. Could you describe that case a little bit?
Steele: Sure. There have been a few stories about the emperor penguin marching to extinction,~ ~ ~
Who wrote the stories? Was it an opinion piece of a political type, causal newspaper, right-wing think-tank, left-wing think-tank, letters to the editor, serious science reporting, a retired PhD in an unrelated field but who possesses strong political motivations, a scientist who's active in the field, an actual peer reviewed study, a university press release?
The few studies that touch on potential penguin extinction have it out on the century horizon.
Steele: it's sort of based on one colony~ ~ ~ ~ ~
What is sort of based on one colony?
Census and environment studies from throughout the continent that uniformly paint a grim picture for penguins' long term prospects?
Steele: that suffered a large decline between about 1960 and 1980 and it was the same colony that was used for the documentary March of Penguins. But if you look at the British Antarctic Survey data, there was absolutely no warming trend.~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Jim, why are you ignoring the warming period in the late 1970s and early 80s when average temp rose nearly three degrees centigrade and ice conditions went to pot for penguins and the population lost around 3,000 penguins? That's what the study you keep picking on was about. So why are you trying to compare that study then to today?
DDU is at the mercy of frigid Katabatic winds that come screaming down off the high Antarctic continental plateau, in fact it boasts the record wind speed of 199mph (327km/h). Thing is, the developing Antarctic Ozone Hole (discovered in the 80s) has 'so to speak' punched a hole in the stratosphere allowing more heat to escape into space, thus chilling down the central continent and those winds even more, so the lack of recent warming at DDU is no surprise.
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The Arctic melts, but oceans and ozone hole may cool Antarctica
John Marshall, Professor of Oceanography, MIT | June 6, 2014
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Tango in the Atmosphere: Ozone and Climate Change
By Jeannie Allen, NASA Earth Observatory, February 2004
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Antarctic wind vortex is strongest for 1000 years
11 May 2014 by Michael Slezak
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25547-antarctic-wind-vortex-is-strongest-for-1000-years.html( http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v4/n7/full/nclimate2235.html )
Study of ancient emperor penguin populations creates concern for future of species
By Felicity Ogilvie and Tyson Shine
Updated 1 Mar 2015
Steele: What they were finding was, and what I argued with some of the scientists there was that when you disturb the penguins during the winter, they are trying to converse all their energy, they have to fast for three, four months if your the male and~ ~ ~ ~ ~
And they tried to explain to you why you were mistaken, but you didn't want to hear any of it.
* Where have you documented these studies showing winter research forays into penguin colonies?
* How often have they occurred?
* Where's your documentation of the kinds of disruptions researchers create?
* What percentage of the colonies were impacted by researchers?
* What was the extent of these disruptions?
Steele: the recent studies are suggesting that when they were studying them they were attaching flipper bands and disrupting them, and that was causing the penguins not to die but to simply leave and the satellite data has shown that a new population has set up near by and its sort of refuges trying to get away from these researchers. It had nothing to do with global warming, but that's what they were blaming it on.~ ~ ~
In one breath you jump from scientist disrupting penguins in the winter, implying researchers aren't aware of their impacts on penguins, then jump to flipper banding, then population relocation. This is exactly what I mean about your disingenuous scattershot approach. This is handwaving not science education.
Heartland's Burnett: Jim, ... For instance, Why was the conservation success story highjacked as an example of climate disruptions? Or why the record high temperatures on each continent withstood seventy years of global warming?~ ~ ~
That is simply not true. take a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records
Yes there are a few wild records standing, such as Death Valley's hundred year old record. But, finding comfort in a couple freak anomalies seems both crazy and suicidal.
Heartland's Burnett: Would you discuss these examples, questions?
Steele: Yeah, there's been many examples of climate alarmism highjacking conservation success stories. And once again one of the most prominent was by Camille Parmesan and her work with the IPCC, she co-authored a paper titled "A globally coherent fingerprint of climate change, impacts across natural systems" and cited by over three thousand consensus scientists
Steele: and in it she argued that CO2 warming was moving animals towards poles,
Steele: but she acknowledged that movement can be caused by landscape changes, or global warming.
It is a study that describes what's being observed.
Although you're sounding like you want to make it an either/or situation - instead of them being intimately linked. Shame, shame.
Steele: But she offered, but, well, her model could show that all this change was really due to global warming sensitivity and not to landscape changes.
The study claims: "This suite of analyses generates ‘very high confidence’ that climate change is already affecting living systems." NATURE | VOL 421 | 2 JANUARY 2003
It's such lies, from someone who knows better, that deserve the label of "criminal negligence'.
Steele: And her best example of that was the case of Silver-spotted skipper that I happened to know a little about, it had been a species that had been restricted to the southern edge of Great Britain and another species the Large Blue were threatened with extinction and the Large Blue actually went extinct in England during that time
"Among appropriate long-term/large-scale/multi-species data sets, this diagnostic fingerprint was found for 279 species. ..."
NATURE | VOL 421 | 2 JANUARY 2003
Heartland's Burnett: Before you go on, tell our listeners what the Silver-spotted skipper was.
Steele: It was a butterfly, most of Dr. Parmesan's work was with butterflies. And the Large Blue is a butterfly it's a pretty crazy story if you read it, it's on the website, it has to rely on ants and then it eats the ants, but it's one of those weird nature stories that people like.
But, anyways they were threatened with extinction because the grassland were becoming over grown. More efficent grazing, destruction of rabbits that were competing with grazing it now allowed all this grass to grow higher and that cooled the surface which was bad for these butterflies. So to save those butterflies the government has actually sponsoring programs to encouraged grazing, or encourage mowing these grasslands to shorter heights.
In response this Silver spotted skipper rebounding, it had nowhere else to go but expand northward, so Parmesan used this example of a conservation success story metamorphosed that into an example of animals high sensitivity to CO2 warming.
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Steele: And she mentioned other examples and I could go in to a bunch of those, but again they were grabbing onto CO2 warming just by kind of a loose correlation that really had no truth in reality.
You know, as this past year has unfurled with the news from Antarctica and the Arctic, the extraordinary typhoons, the continuing wide spread droughts, and the increasingly venomous and disconnected from reality Republican/libertarian attacks, I'm imaging more along the lines of a maniac pilot powering up the throttle in complete disregard of the impending disaster.
This would be one of those cascading consequences caused by human actions I talk about. First greenhouse gases, then the ozone destroying CFCs, and you know, one thing leads to another and before we know it intensified Antarctic vortex winds are screaming around the continent and being slammed by the Katabatic winds coming off the continent, creating conditions very rough for wildlife and other living things.
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