What'sUpWithThatWatts, et al.

This is both my personal learning project and my contribution in the struggle to confront the ongoing Republican/ libertarian assault on rational science and constructive learning, as manifested in their malicious strategic Attacks on Science ~ A collection of articles, scientific resources, plus my own essays and indepth critique of various presentations from unidirectional-skeptics ~ Hopefully a resource for the busy, yet discerning, student who's concerned about the health of our Earth

Monday, June 13, 2016

NC-20 Dave Burton runs to echo-chamber, Poptech's clubhouse.

As predicted I might add. Rather then engaging in a good faith dialogue (or dispute if you like) Dave went running to his echo chamber to complain about what a nasty character I am and Poptech was happy to provide a stage.

He posted the following comment at his blog, after marching over to that Republican/libertarian climate science attacking crowd to do his whining. With their typical nasty brand of barroom derision, they are having a field day piling it on. That it's contrived bull-shit purely intended to demean the messenger and self-justify their willfully ignoring the substance of the information I've confronted him/them with, goes over their heads. They seem to feel oh so holy, not a doubt in their minds.

But that is one of the big tragedies, these people won't even honestly listen to what one is trying to explain to them. They simply cannot handle crediting anyone they disagree with, everyone who opposes their self-certain fantasy, becomes the enemy and is open to any and every attack.

They reframe every fact to suit their faith-based conviction. It's like they've created their own fantasy world from start to finish, one founded on their political dogma and paranoia - one frighteningly devoid of all basic awareness/appreciation for the physical world we depend on.

My bias is understanding and appreciating this planet and I stand prepared to engage in a constructive debate with any climate science "skeptic-contrarian" type who has the intellectual integrity to actually listen to what his opponent is saying!

And then to respond directly to those points, without juvenile meaningless distractions.

As for my character references, what can I say? http://citizenschallenge.blogspot.com/2016/05/considering-character-references.html)

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Dave NC-20 Burton citizenschallengeAE • AM, Monday 6/13/2016

"CitizenschallengeAE" is one Pete Miesler, and "whatsupwiththatwatts" is one of his web sites.

I attempted to answer his questions on his moderated blog site, before I knew who he is. Bizarrely, he deleted my answers and then demanded that I respond. I wondered, "what's the matter with this guy?" So I googled him, and this is what I found: www.populartechnology.n...

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Response to Dave Burton 6/13/2016 morning

Dave, stop whinning and stop lying. Simply because I don't post everyone of your flood of tricky-dick-coding laced comments -> with a clear explanation that I don't do spam doesn't mean I've "deleted" any serious direct comments you've offer. Just that you haven't offered any NO cut'n pasting distractions won't cut it at CC or WUWTW, I'm looking for substance!

You believe your one-sided monologue that ignores and dances around every particular - is something I should except. Nonsense. Mr. Burton respond to my particulars in a serious good faith manner. I wonder if you even know what that is!

Also I have made quite clear that I have moved our "dialogue" to WhatsUpWithThatWatts.blogspot, citizenschallenge.blogspot is not the place for the kind of mud wrestling you engage in.

Simple, straightforward. Now it's time for you to show some intellectual substance, rather than running back to the comfort and support of your echo-chamber for this drama queen performance. Grow up!

#1 Considering malicious mischief in action: ncdav4life

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/05/1malicious-mischief-ncdave4life.html

ncdave4life IPCC "Expert" Reviewer and battle of the lists

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/05/ipccreviewers-battle-of-lists.html

The Seamonster does Dave Burton's sea level claims.

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/05/seamonster-does-dave-burton.html

HOTWHOPPER does Dave Burton's sea level claims.

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/05/hotwhopper-does-dave-burton-claims.html

Dave Burton complains, yet remains a no-show.

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/06/dave-burton-complains-but.html

Open note to Dave Burton (NC-20).

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/06/open-note-to-dave-burton-nc-20.html

As for Poptech's hate fest, please note, he's another one who has avoided a debate.

Confronting Malicious Ignorance - Poptech, what about this list?

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/malicious-ignorance-poptech-ipcc.html

Yo, Poptech, Here's A List For You

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/malicious-ignorance-poptech-ipcc_25.html

Debating Malicious Ignorance - Poptech, a few questions please.

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/debating-ignorance-questions-4-poptech.html

Poptech's boilerplate response (#2 in comment series)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptechs-boilerplate-response.html

Considering Poptech's defense of funding (#3 in comment series)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptech-in-defense-of-funding-3.html

Poptech's indignation (#4 in comment series)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptechs-indignation-4th-in-comment.html

Poptech’s list of Confusion - ItsNotNova

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptech-list-confusion-itsnotnova.html

Whoa Poptech. Your turn to answer some questions.

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptech-your-turn-answer-questions.html

Poptech's 14 Articles of Self-Deception (#5 in comment series)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/poptech-14-articles-self-deception.html

Ignorant, stupid, insane or just plain evil? (#6 in comment series)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/ignorant-stupid-insane-or-just-plain.html

"Keep the Debate Alive!" (#7 moral of the comments)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/01/keep-debate-alive-moral-of-comments.html

Lord of the Flies (#8 Poptech's Truth)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/lord-of-flies-poptechs-truth.html

Mr. Landscapesandcycles, Jim Steele weights in (#9 ...)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/landscapesandcycles-steele-weights-in.html

Return of Lord of the Flies (#10…)

http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/02/return-of-lord-of-flies.html

2 comments:

citizenschallenge said...: Regarding the "deletions" NC-20 Burton is crying about, I did reproduce a couple of his comments, replacing his tricky dick coding with ???. Dave, as Steve Martin would say, Weelll, exxcuuuuse me.
But I've made my policy clear.

NO TRICKY DICK CODING ALLOWED

If you won't make the investment to write down direct comments -
you obviously haven't taken the time to consider what I've written -
in which case you are not responding to my specifics -
in which case I owe you no stage.

Good day sir.; June 13, 2016 at 8:06 AM
citizenschallenge said...: Oh and for the record, I did post Dave's first three comments including all of his sneaking coding, that blossomed into all sorts of nonsense when approved.

Incidentally Dave, it is funny in a sick pathetic sort of way, that you are dependent on secret coding as the way slip your message through?

You people seem incapable of being upfront about anything. That is a real shame for all of us.; June 13, 2016 at 3:42 PM

RECOMMENDED WEBSITES

{edited 12/11/2014}

I know there are too many typos, what can I say, eyes aren't what they were, I get rushed, and always did have a thing with transposing…{well, I also hated high school "english" classes... bad call that one.}. Doing the best I can with what I got. Embarrassing though it is, it's better than doing nothing. Besides, it's the issues and reasoning that we should be worrying about.

Though I'm in my own little world here, I'm also constantly learning and evolving and do get occasional feedback and when I reread stuff and find errors or omissions or garbage, I fix it. If it's major I'll acknowledge it with an 'edited' note, minor stuff I don't bother.

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I hardly keep track of Anthony's latest antics (besides, with Sou on the job why bother - can't beat her insights). It's just me over here and I have more important things to do with my precious hours - still now that Anthony's luster has been wearing thin he's put his energy into discovering and honing new fresh faces to carry on the public show of the Republican/Libertarian strategic attack on science.

He seems to have transitioned into a ring-leader, perhaps mentor/coach would be better, producer? At least that's how Mr. Steele and his antics of the past year has gotten me to think about it. So in that regard this blog remains about WUWT's brand of thinking and logic and my struggle to understand the anatomy of the fraud they've perpetrated against mankind. {December 2014}

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ok, now some recommended websites:

This blog was started in April 2013 and is written by an actual scientist so it has a refreshingly serious objective air to it, plus he does a good clear job of explaining complex issues.

And Then There's Physics.
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Sou has some of the best {readability and detailed} examinations of Watt's antics I've seen - and she does have fun with certain characters.

She continues be the best at keeping up with Mr. Watts' and pals and their many deceptions.

The recent dirty tricks and attacks she is enduring are acknowledgment of how good she is at it.

http://blog.hotwhopper.com

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Ben has been documenting Anthony's misdeeds longer than the rest of us.

http://wottsupwiththat.com

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Tamino, an acknowledged statistical/mathematical expert of the highest order, at Open Mind also does an excellent job of holding Anthony’s feet to the fire with clearly explained facts and math. Check it out:
http://tamino.wordpress.com
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And of course, there is the excellent, most up to date internet depository of climate studies and information for the non-expert public.

http://SkepticalScience.com

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Then there's RealClimate.org the scientist's commentary site. Run by working climate scientists intended to help the interested public and journalists sort through the complexities of the climatology. They provide "quick response to developing stories and provide the context" that is too often missing from public media's depiction. {But, you better be serious and have some real science education/understanding under your belt if you want to keep up.}

http://realclimate.org

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I remember back in da day, good websites/blogs were few and far between. But over the past years that's been changing to the point that it's impossible to keep up with them all. Here's an incomplete, and long overdue addition to my above list:

AGW Observer

Arctic Sea Ice Blog

IPCC

Variable Variability

new to the list

LucidPolitics.com

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Monday, June 13, 2016

NC-20 Dave Burton runs to echo-chamber, Poptech's clubhouse.

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