{Part two will review the Wall Street Journal letter in detail}
Considering the oft repeated refrain at a discussion forum I visit of: “it all depends on which scientists you choose to believe” along with something like ‘who am I to judge the voracity of a scientist?’ this recent dust up seems worth sharing. Since it once again underscores the crazy-making Mr. Watts and his pals are guilty of.
This is both my personal learning project and my contribution in the struggle to confront the ongoing Republican/ libertarian assault on rational science and constructive learning, as manifested in their malicious strategic Attacks on Science ~ A collection of articles, scientific resources, plus my own essays and indepth critique of various presentations from unidirectional-skeptics ~ Hopefully a resource for the busy, yet discerning, student who's concerned about the health of our Earth
Sunday, January 29, 2012
Saturday, January 28, 2012
WSJ claims there’s “No Need to Panic About Global Warming” (part two)
Regarding the substance of the Wall Street Journal’s letter “No Need to Panic About Global Warming” signed by 16 supposedly “prominent scientists”
The letter can be found at here.
{Below the letter’s text is in black, with my comments in blue.}
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WSJ Editor's Note: The following has been signed by the 16 scientists listed at the end of the article:
A candidate for public office in any contemporary democracy may have to consider what, if anything, to do about "global warming." Candidates should understand that the oft-repeated claim that nearly all scientists demand that something dramatic be done to stop global warming is not true. In fact, a large and growing number of distinguished scientists and engineers do not agree that drastic actions on global warming are needed.
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¶ one:
Yet, if this is the case then way could they only muster 16 signees? Worse only two have actual climatology experience and seven of the sixteen are directly connected to right-wing think tanks that actively opposed any action to address Anthropogenic Global Warming on economic grounds.
{please do read on}
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Tuesday, January 17, 2012
"Don’t mock the Monck" ~ WUWT 11/20/11 ~ Anthony's claims examined
I'd like to examine another post over at WUWT
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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/20/dont-mock-the-monck/
Don’t mock the Monck
Posted on November 20, 2011 by Anthony Watts
“Apparently, Monckton is a member of the House of Lords, according to constitutional lawyer in England.”
{...}
“Monckton, on returning from Australia from his tour this autumn, consulted Hugh O’Donoghue, a leading constitutional lawyer at Carmelite Chambers. . .”
Yet if one takes the time to look up their member profile here’s what you’ll find for Hugh O’Donoghue:
A Comment at Watt's Up With That
I've just posted the following at Watt's Up With That -
it remains to be seen if their moderator decides to trash it...
thus for good measure I figured I should
document the post over here:
it remains to be seen if their moderator decides to trash it...
thus for good measure I figured I should
document the post over here:
It concerns the discussion over there that seems to have
gotten side tracked on Monckton's peerage rather on
Monckton's serial misrepresentations of science and quotes.
gotten side tracked on Monckton's peerage rather on
Monckton's serial misrepresentations of science and quotes.
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Well it's official this comment did not get through
the censors at WUWT,
although their comments are finally moving away from peerage nonsense.
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Well it's official this comment did not get through
the censors at WUWT,
although their comments are finally moving away from peerage nonsense.
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What's with this diversion about the Lord this or Lord that?
...
Monckton misrepresents both his standing as a member of the House of Lords as "FaceFirst" pointed out [January 16, 2012 at 5:16 am], if you don't believe him try to find Monckton's name on the official list of members [http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/lords/]
And then there's this official reprimand demanding Monckton stop making these false claims: http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/
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quoting from that letter:
"Letter to Viscount Monckton of Brenchley from David Beamish, the Clerk of the Parliaments.
Dear Lord Monckton
My predecessor, Sir Michael Pownall, wrote to you on 21 July 2010, and again on 30 July 2010, asking that you cease claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication.
It has been drawn to my attention that you continue to make such claims. . ."
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He has also misrepresented is roll as Prime Minister Thatcher's advisor.
From SPPI's personnel page: "SPPI's Chief Policy Adviser: Lord Monckton, UK: -- Christopher, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, was Special Advisor to Margaret Thatcher as UK Prime Minister from 1982 to 1986. . ."
and then the lavish claims made here at WUWT see:
“Margaret Thatcher: the world’s first climate realist”
Posted on June 16, 2010 by Anthony Watts
...
Yet the man isn’t mentioned once in Margaret Thatcher’s 914 page autobiography. In fact, she credits one George Guise as being her science policy advisor.
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Why don’t such “inconsistencies” send up red flags to thinking skeptics?
And isn’t all this attempting to build up the Lord’s supposed “authority” in the eyes of his audience nothing more than an appeal to authority? I thought you folks attack ‘appeals to authority’ why is it OK for the Lord to play that card so eloquently?
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But the real concern should be over his constant misreporting scientific work as
John Abraham [http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/] and
Peter Hadfield [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM] have documented?
Monday, January 16, 2012
The Lord Christopher Monckton Files
Considering the recent dust up between Monckton plus Anthony Watts v. Peter Hadfield aka Potholer54 -
I figured I should repost these for interested students
I figured I should repost these for interested students
of the politics of Anthropogenic Global Warming denial.
And to highlight that Monckton’s record of deception goes way back.
Admittedly the following isn’t the best
since I am simply an interested citizen
Admittedly the following isn’t the best
since I am simply an interested citizen
and neither an academician nor journalist,
but the parade of deception has driven me to do
what little I can to oppose it.
Please feel free to use any of the following -
what little I can to oppose it.
Please feel free to use any of the following -
where I reference other sources please
be sure to include those references.
be sure to include those references.
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Saturday, January 14, 2012
WUWT champions and cheers Monckton's lies, fortunately Peter Hadfield gives an excellent response
LORD MONCKTON FEATURED AT
WATT'S UP WITH THAT
{Peter Hadfield’s video taped response within}
WATT'S UP WITH THAT
{Peter Hadfield’s video taped response within}
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First there was YouTube’s “Potholer54” video series
“Monckton’s Bunkum” highlighting the Lord’s “errors.”
Then someone compiled and posted a list of those errors.
Anthony can explain the rest:
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Then someone compiled and posted a list of those errors.
Anthony can explain the rest:
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"Monckton answers a troll"
WUWT Post September 18th, 2011, by Anthony Watts
“This is a response by Christopher Monckton to the comment on the "Nurse anti'science thread yesterday by anonymous commenter “The other Brian” who in typical troll style, tries to distract away from the post and point being made - with noise {signed}, Anthony Watts. {...}”
Peter Hadfield replied to this post by making another YouTube video with a point by point, evidence backed, indictment of the Lord's stated claims and denials, which can be viewed below.
Sunday, January 8, 2012
The 2011 Climate B.S.* of the Year Awards
I would like to share the Pacific Institute's "2011 Climate B.S.* of the Year Awards"
For more information please link to:
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Pacific Institute's
2011 Climate B.S.* of the Year Awards
[* B.S. means “Bad Science”]
Background
Even as unusually frequent and intense extreme weather events killed people and damaged property, and as the scientific evidence for the human influence on climate continued to strengthen, national leaders did little to ameliorate or plan adaptation strategies for climate change. Peter Gleick attributes this failure to act in part to the difficulty of the challenges of curbing greenhouse gas emissions and addressing the rising temperatures, changing rainfall patterns, rising sea-levels, loss of snowpack and glaciers, disappearance of Arctic sea ice, and more. But he also points to what he describes as “a concerted, well-funded, and aggressive anti-science campaign by climate change deniers and contrarians.”
“These are mostly groups focused on protecting narrow financial interests, ideologues fearful of any government regulation, or scientific contrarians who cling to outdated, long-refuted interpretations of science,” said Gleick. “While much of the opposition to addressing the issue of climate change is political, it often hides behind pseudo-scientific claims, with persistent efforts to intentionally mislead the public and policymakers with bad science about climate change.”
In response to these efforts, in 2010 the Pacific Institute launched the annual Climate B.S.* of the Year Awards. We are now pleased, and disturbed, to announce the winners of the 2011 (second annual) Climate B.S.* of the Year Awards:
THIS YEAR’S WINNERS OF THE
2011 CLIMATE B.S.* OF THE YEAR AWARDS:
2011 CLIMATE B.S.* OF THE YEAR AWARDS:
Fifth Place: Anthony Watts for his BEST hypocrisy
Anti-climate-science blogger Anthony Watts said he would accept the results of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature or “BEST” study, even if it proved him wrong. Unfortunately for him, the study showed that the Earth’s surface is warming and at just the rate that numerous previous studies had shown – but he reneged and attacked the paper and the science.
Fourth Place: The Koch Brothers for funding the promotion of bad climate science
Fourth Place: The Koch Brothers for funding the promotion of bad climate science
Fourth place goes to fossil-fuel billionaires Charles and David Koch of Koch Industries, Inc., who provide substantial funding to groups and politicians who deny the science of climate change. The Koch brothers fund a veritable Who’s Who of groups that put out misleading science or tout bad science on climate change as an intentional strategy.
Third Place: Spencer, Braswell, and Christy
Third place goes to Roy Spencer and William (Danny) Braswell for a debunked research paper on climate sensitivity, and John Christy, for an astounding piece of misleading testimony at a Congressional climate change hearing.
Second Place: Disinformation from Fox News and Murdoch’s News Corporation
Fox News moves up from their fifth place finish last year, joined by the entire News Corporation empire of Rupert Murdoch because of its regular misrepresentation of climate science and anti-climate science reporting among the different Murdoch outlets in the UK, the U.S., and Australia.
AND IN FIRST PLACE
All of the Republican candidates for President being anti-science in general, and anti-climate science in particular, seems a requirement for nomination to lead the Republican Party.
Not a single one of the Republican candidates for President has a position on climate change that is consistent with the actual science accepted by 97-98% of all climate scientists and every national academy of sciences on the planet.
The choice among the current Republican candidates on the issue of climate change is scientific ignorance, disdain for science, blatant misrepresentation of facts, or naked political expediency, any one of which would make the individual candidates strong contenders for the 2011 Climate B.S. Award. Combined?
The group wins the 2011 Award hands down.
Friday, January 6, 2012
“Science and Distortion - Stephen Schneider” ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ an unauthorized transcript
The following comes from a tribute to the late Stanford University climatologist Stephen Schneider.
It is an unauthorized transcript {though I have received Stephen Thomson's after the fact blessing} of a video montage featuring clips of Stephen Schneider speaking at Climate One including interview clips of a young Dr. Schneider explaining the contemporary "consensus."
As Rob Honeycutt over at SkepticalScience said: “Not only is this an excellently produced video but it is a wonderful and balanced encapsulation of the reality of the climate situation and public debate.”
I myself am so impressed with what Dr. Schneider said that I’ve decide to transcribe the audio of this video (including time signatures).
I do this for my own edification since the process allows me to truly digest the message and I'm posting it here because I hope it might be of use to someone else.
Please feel free to copy and share the following but, please remember to acknowledge Stephen Thomson and Plomomedia as the producers of this excellent video ~ for a link to view the video include: http://www.skepticalscience.com/science-and-distortion-stephen-schneider.html
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In memory of Professor Stephen Schneider
1945 - 2010
In memory of Professor Stephen Schneider
1945 - 2010
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Stanford University climatologist Stephen Schneider speaking:
00:15... “How did we know in the 1970s pretty much what would happen? It was theory then. And since then nature has been cooperating with theory but we kind of knew what would happen. You couldn’t add 4 watts of extra heat over every square meter and have nothing happen."
[ cut to young Stephen Schneider ]
0:30... “Scientific consensus that co2 will build up and be a potential problem is very large. But a scientific conscious on precisely how influential it will be in ten years, in twenty, in what areas climates will get better and what would be worse this is where the controversy comes in."
[ end clip ]
0:50... “We also knew that you had to stop using the atmosphere as an unpriced sewer to dump your smoke stack and tail pipe waste and your land-use change interactions. All of that was known. It was not just in the club of a hundred left brained people.
1:05... "We testified to congress, we talked to ministers, there were national and international meetings, it was out there.”
[ cut to old news clips “... some of the things we are doing ourselves are accelerating the process... our burning of fossil fuels, etc. . . is a very big contributor to the greenhouse effect etc. ]
1:35... “So why didn’t we succeed? What happened?”
1:35... “So why didn’t we succeed? What happened?”
“Science is Never Settled”
1:40... “Climate science is a system science. It’s like trying to understand your body. Or trying to figure out something with cancer, or how the educational system is going to work most effectively, how are we going to do security? Everyone of these complex systems problems has multiple components and when you break them down what you find out is (2:00) rarely do we know everything and rarely do we know nothing. So, we have to break system science into the well established components, which are settled. I’ll tell you a few. Into competing explanations where our work has been able to get us to winnow it down to two or three possibilities.
[ graph of model results per the IPCC ]
2:15... “Here’s where the disconnect comes along. Special interests will grab
[cut to - “American Chemistry Council” ad and parade of talking heads.]
what’s convenient for the ideology, or their position, so what you end up with, is you end up with a cacophony, typically of people selecting stuff out of context. Then you end up with the end of the world versus good for you.
2:15... “Here’s where the disconnect comes along. Special interests will grab
[cut to - “American Chemistry Council” ad and parade of talking heads.]
what’s convenient for the ideology, or their position, so what you end up with, is you end up with a cacophony, typically of people selecting stuff out of context. Then you end up with the end of the world versus good for you.
[ cut to Bachmann Singer, Leighton Steward, Singer... CO2 is natural....vs. malaria extreme... drought catastrophe, enviro refugees, global catastrophe, +8°etc. ]
3:30... “I’ll confess my prejudice, the ‘end of the world’ and ‘good for you’ are the two loosest probability outcomes.
3:30... “I’ll confess my prejudice, the ‘end of the world’ and ‘good for you’ are the two loosest probability outcomes.
“System Science”
“What we are looking at is a multiple range of potential outcomes and what system scientists do is they winnow out the relative likelihood of these multiple outcomes.
"So if you try to cover it as a yes our no and you go out there and you take a 200 scientist report like the IPCC, it goes through three years of writing, two rounds of reviews and a thousand review comments on every chapter.
4:00... "And then two petroleum geologists, you know who are special interest in finding oil paid by you know which oil company because they have PhDs are given equal status on story or television and you see we get a little mad about that and we call that utter distortion. And they say “oh no, that’s balance.” It is not balance, it is utter distortion because they are not reporting the relative creditability of the multiple positions. And it means that you’re leaving it to the public and political world to figure that out for themselves. Their capable of it, but they rarely do it.”
[ 4:30 cut - ad co2 good for you, write congress, lobby against carbon dioxide controls ... ]
“Value judgement”
5:00... “Supposing you got a spot on your lung from a chest x-ray which you did for a different purpose than looking for cancer. Well it could be a healed lesion or it could be the beginning of an actual tumor. And I actually know two examples where this really happened. So they were asked what to do. Well what should we do doc? Well do a biopsy, well it’s hard to get to, we have to do surgery, surgery has rises, it’s expensive, it’s painful.
"In other words there’s a price for a false positive. If you believe that could be cancer and you try to take it out you will pay a price. So OK we don’t want to pay the price, so let’s wait and see, what can we do. And the doc says we can wait and if it grows be better take it out, and of course this patient said: but what’s the chance that if I wait and it grows that it becomes metastatic and therefore it will be too late and I’ll be dead whereas if I take it out now in a precautionary mode pay the price for the surgery I might not need I’ll have a lower likelihood of being dead. Now what’s the right answer to that? There is no right answer. That’s your value judgement.
“Risk Management”
6:05... "How many people in this place, in this fire prone California have had a house fire? (show of hands) A few of you Typically it’s one to two percent. How many of you have fire insurance? We already are very risk adverse, when we have consequences that matter. We do not need 95% certainty. Here is where again (6:30) people frame this problem by looking for exceptions to the conventional wisdom and claim until the exceptions are resolved it isn’t proved and it’s premature to act, yet we’re acting on our 1% risk and paying insurance. And here were talking about 50% risk to the planetary life support system and they’re telling us that’s not certain enough."
[ cut to Strassel and his parade of discredited denialist talking points, blaming: “.... or other things we just don’t understand.”
{The patent lie here is that scientists do understand those aspects of our climate to a high degree of realist certainty.} ]
7:15... "It’s not lost on some of you that that’s special interest blabber. We heard that from the American Tobacco Institute for years. Remember, “three studies are equivocal about whether smoking causes cancer.”
[ cut to - Tobacco Institute Ad, questioning the evidence ]
8:00... “And, and they correctly said and still to this day we do not know biophysically the precise links between smoking and cancer.
"So they give you a “therefore”, when there’s no therefore there, therefore it’s premature to act. That’s personal value judgement of risk management. Of course they want to protect market share. Whereas the data are so overwhelming epidemiologically, you know the statistics, that you’d have to crazy not to control this even though you don’t understand every detail of the mechanisms.
8:30... "So this is again where we have to do risk management. Which is how do you want to deal with a preponderance of evidence not an absolute certainty in every detail."
[ cut to - republicans debate, not settled, not a crisis, carbon myth ]
9:00... "Let’s talk about tipping points. So what about Greenland, how could Greenland be a tipping point. Right now it’s melting at an unprecedented rate. The water is rolling down, nobody knows if the water is freezing on the way down or reaching the bottom. If the water makes it all the way to the bottom, then it’s going to heat the bottom and lubricate it. Once you start melting it, it creates a self fulfilling prophecy where you could move towards 5 meters of sea rise and there’d be no way to stop it.
"What we don’t know is, does it need one more degree before that happens, two or three, all I can say with high degree of confidence is the more we keep adding unprecedented levels of warming to the system the more the number of tipping points that are going to be crossed. We know for sure that they’re there. We don’t know for sure where they are.
9:55... “This is not just an academic exercise, this is something we’ve got to have people deeply engaged in. Because we’re talking about the sustainability for their children, their grand-children and the rest of nature... our behavior.
“What’s the worst thing about tipping points like Greenland, we will probably not know when we’ve crossed it for fifty years. So our behavior in the next generation could precondition a sustainability issue for a millennium or ten, based upon the convenience of one species for one generation. I find that a very morally daunting prospect.
[ clip to young Schneider ]
10:35... “What we are really doing is insulting our global environment at a faster rate than we are understanding it. And the best we can do in all honesty is say lookout there’s a change of potentially irreversible change at a global scale based upon the benefits of use of energy and it’s very tough for us to know whether those benefits of energy today are worth the potential risks of environmental change for our children.”
[ end clip ]
11:05... “How are we going to deal with this problem and others like it if it requires public understanding so they can send the right value signals to our representatives when their completely knocked off their pins by this cacophonous fraudulent debate were all parties are given equal credibility where they don’t deserve it. And we have got to take back the air waves in a way and make certain that what’s out there is more credible not just simply following some formulaic ballets.
"Thanks very much.”
Stephen finishes and leaves the stage.
But he has left us a legacy to cherish, learn from and build upon.
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For further information visit the folks over at SkepticalScience.com:
CO2 is Plant Food
Renewable Energy kills jobs
CO2 is plant food? If only it were so simple.
Is the Science Settled?
It's not Bad.
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For further information visit the folks over at SkepticalScience.com:
Renewable Energy kills jobs
CO2 is plant food? If only it were so simple.
Is the Science Settled?
It's not Bad.
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