In light of the fruitless dialogue I'm having with Curry fans at her:
"Climate change: no consensus on consensus" thread:
http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=3692282252844489453#editor/src=sidebar
"Climate change: no consensus on consensus" thread:
http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=3692282252844489453#editor/src=sidebar
I though I'd write a letter.
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Dear Judith Curry fans and other Republicans,
Recently I listened to an interesting talk given by Dan Leonard, of WSI (The Weather Channel):
"Seasonal Forecasting - How is it Possible?"
It was part of a series taken at the "Weather and Climate Summit" this past January
[ http://www.stormcenter.com/wxcs2012/index.html ] and though it has to do with forecasting temperatures more than long term climate issues I still found it interesting.
Particularly when a good deal of the last half of Dan's talk was about examining WSI's bad forecast for December 2011. It's a fascinating review of the complexity of our atmosphere's heat distribution engine.
Towards the end it got me to thinking about the way "skeptical" folks and denialists "frame" their arguments and justifications. Always making out the "consensus" scientist as the bad guy and any little flaw as a "smoking gun" to attack.
During this talk it was interesting seeing how professionals go at their tasks. They made a very bad forecast, they focused on examining and understanding what went wrong and now they were sharing that learning process with other meteorologists. Just another day in the continuing education that is science.
I bring this up because I am disturbed by the extent to which the "AGW skeptical" community depends on character assassination, sinister implications, heck even out and out paranoia and the one-world government and black helicopters thing. With never a straight answer to be offered.
You claim I'm naive because I don't see it your way - after all it's so freak'n obvious. So obvious none of you bothers to provide any objective list of evidence justifying your demonization and distrust?
Why should I believe your claims of the supposed sins and frauds the community of climate and Earth scientists have committed - when you can never offer straight answers?
Why am I naive, because I believe serious professionals - folks who are dedicated to understanding and learning and figuring out how our planet's global heat distribution engine operates? Why do you find it more naive than believing something you can't objectively support?
How naive is it assuming scientists are all part of a world conspiracy to take away your god blessed life-style?
How naive is it to assume that evidence across dozens of disciplines and nations of researchers - can be coordinated in order to trick us into a one world government?
But the denialist expects me to believe that's all a front? Even though, you don't produce any simple objective lists outlining all these supposed frauds.
Shame on you.
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This isn't the stuff of conspiracy, this is Earth Observation.
I wonder how "skeptics" find it so easy to dismiss this sort of basic understanding of our global heat distribution engine.
For more:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/10/climate-change-videos-part-i/
Climate Change Line of Evidence - videos: Part I
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— group @ 9 October 2012
The US National Research Council has been doing a lot recently to expand background knowledge of the climate system and of climate change. In tandem with a new report discussing strategies for advancing climate modeling, they have put up a an introductory web site on climate models (including some interviews with some actual climate modelers).
More comprehensively, they have helped put together a series of videos discussing everything from the definition of climate to attribution of climate changes and future projections.
The series is in seven parts, viewable here.
There are additional resources here.
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