Saturday, December 24, 2016

What's Up With Republican disconnect from planet Earth?

The following started as a response over at Center For Inquiry forum.  But it took on a life of its own and I'd like to share it over here, the quote that got me going:

“I agree that there are lots of justifications to have a negative outlook for our future.  But I do think that although our ability to destroy ourselves is increasing all the time, we are also, on average, getting better at treating each other better.  (I wish I could say the same for how we treat our planet, but with our population and growth rate and 'improving standard of living', we have a long loooong way to go.”)  

(for the record this was written several months before the election.)

CC:  I wonder how you feel after this election "campaign" and its result?

As for our planet, we are her guests.  Earth has only so much to offer us and after a few hundred years of sucking out and consuming everything as fast as possible, all the while getting ever more contemptuous and disconnected from our Earth’s physical realities, she's running out of what we need to survive.  Our slow learning curve doesn’t mean a thing to how Earth reacts to what we have done to her.  What we don’t know is certainly going to harm us. 

Science tells us about Earth’s simple physical reality.  No matter how much bullshit Republican delusionals have hurled at this edifice of knowledge and understanding, the overwhelming observational evidence supports what the scientists are tellings us. 

Misrepresenting what scientists say likewise doesn’t change the facts.  Choosing to ignore it doesn’t mean the changes aren’t continuing underfoot.  Here I’m reminded of an excellent song worth sharing at this point.  I’ve wanted to share it since first hearing it downtown Denver during the 2008 Democratic Convention.  Their poetry does a pretty job of conveying a certain ugly reality about how things work in Washington DC and how oblivious most people are to it.

 Oakhurst - Moonshine Still


Bringing it back down to Earth and appreciating her realities.

I’ll repeat, we are Earth's creatures and its guests.  We've achieved incredible things, but it was all on account of Earth providing us those raw materials, not to mention creating us.  Raw materials four and a half billion amazing years in the making.  

A fantastical pageant who's story can be told, thanks to the serious organized study of countless thousands of people who have carefully examined her clues, which are to be found all around us - if you have eyes capable of seeing.

Tragically, these days thanks to Hollywood, Corporate and Evangelical brainwashing, most are left blind to any awareness, let alone appreciation for this planet that sustains us.  Republicans have gone out of their way to banish respecting Earth from their mindscape, profits and power seems all that matters in their childlike reality.   

Say ‘global heat and moisture distribution engine’ and its blank stares all the way around.  Yet, the same clueless people feel quite comfortable slandering serious scientists and the painstaking information they have accumulated.  

Earth’s story is the story of countless folds within folds of constructive harmony flowing down the stream of time.  If this sounds hippy-dippy and you’re ready to toss epitaphs at me, let me first ask how much do you know about it?  

How curious have you been about our home planet Earth?  Do you know about the evolution of elements in the stars, or the evolution of minerals here on Earth, or the long periods it took simplest pre-cellular units to learn the lessons needed before moving in with each other, and on to more complex cells, then organizations of cells?  

Do you know about the fantastical pageant of life, first in the oceans, then on land.  Or how we can watch a developing human embryo and follow human’s evolutionary life stages from simplest early creatures through the stages of our distant reptilian and mammalian past, each having left its unique traits.  

Do you understand that our atmosphere has a likewise fascinating evolutionary story.  A story you need to truly appreciate before you can understand anything realistic about global warming induced climate change and what it means for this planet.

Mr/Ms Republican (and lurking Russians) You’ll never have any sort of fundamental understanding about Anthropogenic Global Warming, without first learning about Earth’s Evolution.  I suppose that’s one reason why we have so easily sacrificed our children’s futures.

For the Curious:

Appreciating Earth's Climate
Who says understanding Earth’s Evolution is irrelevant?


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citizenschallenge said...

What are you talking about? Where in the world do you think I've frozen myself into some understanding?
If you've been paying attention to our evolutionary story you would know it's getting for detailed all the time, with amazing surprises still popping up with regularity, but there have been no U-turns, steady refinement is a much better descriptor of the constructive scientific process.

Might I suggest reading "The Relativity of Wrong" By Isaac

You wave vague insinuations around but don't spell out a thing - your comment is a cheap shot. Lets see if you have the intellectual honesty to come back and explain yourself.

Oh and what does anything you wrote have to do with the underlying fact of the Republican embrace of fabricated, faith-based lies and their general disconnect from our planet's reality such as CO2 Science

Or the reality of four and a half billion years worth of ongoing evolution - as opposed to the childish faith-blinded believer's 'poof magic show' that so many Republicans actually believe is a reflection of reality and the Last Word on the topic.

citizenschallenge said...

it's getting more detailed all the time

citizenschallenge said...

Been thinking about your comment Evan and I want to be clear - what has gotten really rotten about the Republican crowd is their embrace of the concept that self-interested, self-serving rationalizations, and fraudulently twisting "facts" behind recognition is their "free speech right" rather than the acts of malicious fraud that they are!

Not an acceptable components of rational constructive adult dialogue - where honestly representing your opponents' position is a must.

Republicans seem to think their self-servings faith gives them license to lie about others and the work they're reported on.
I clearly reject that position.

I am willing to stand up and rationally defend my claims and opinions, that is more than can be said for the typical Republican type who seem incapable of producing more than irrational Drive by Shootings. (we'll see if Evan has more substance than the usual. I look forward to his response.)


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citizenschallenge said...

There are extended times I’m far from my computer, excuse the delay. I gladly post serious comments, I too welcome rational discussion.

For instance I didn't see this comment till this evening. Though it's gotten my attention for sure, it's making a great case study in subtle deception. I hope you don't mind me turning it into a stand along post. I'll be back to share the link when it's up.

PS. I don't think you are the innocent you're trying too project.
Don't make no sense, not your words, nor you taking the time to comment over here.
I suspect you are an astro-turfer. Or have I got you all wrong?

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citizenschallenge said...

Okay, it's finished, except for the usual touch-ups tomorrow I imagine.

Debating the Republican Disconnect from Earth's realities

citizenschallenge said...

Evan at 11:26 - You've got me entirely wrong. Don't warp my broad claim that both sides of this argument are self-interested into labeling me as an "astro-turfer'.

Then why are your words so predictable , it’s like you’re reading off the script.
Evan at 11:26 - I think the misguided legislative agenda being pushed based on AGW research is both economically wasteful and does absolutely nothing to reduce the scale of human energy consumption and carbon emissions. It is an unfeasible, unattainable, unrealistic policy achievement with current methods of alternative energy.

A) You’ve admitted that you know nothing about climate science, yet you feel in a position to label legislative efforts misguided. How’s that work?
That reminds me, what are your favorite news sources?

B) “Absolutely nothing”. Really, how do you figure that? What do you know about it?

C) Finally you seem to believe that ignoring the science is okay if it’s inconvenience or challenging for what you believe.

The thing you’re trying to ignore is we are talking fundamental reality of our physical planet here - it doesn’t matter if you don’t like it, it is what it is! Ignore at your own peril.
Evan at 11:26 - This is not to say alternative methods should be abandoned; on the contrary, we should continue to research both the climate and our impact on it as well as alternative fuel source optimization. Knowledge, legislation and technology aren't ready yet to address this issue. Case-in-point: see Germany's sustainable energy program.

Blah, blah, blah, and you wonder why I suspect your are nothing more than an astro-turfer

Buddy first thing we, you, need to get real about what we are doing to our planet !!!

citizenschallenge said...

Buddy first thing we, you, need to get real about is what we are doing to our life supporting planet !!!

citizenschallenge said...

fyi -

citizenschallenge said...

Well that sucks, I removed Evan's comments at his request. Since I went full blog post on him, he's concerned about some sort of internet backlash - none of my friends are of the harassing type, but it is an increasingly ugly place out there. Unfortunately, the comments are gone from here, but not the name.
My apologies Evan. If I knew how to remove the name I would.

Any suggestions would be welcome.